B8.5 DSG 93 Octane - What are they running stock in the 1/4th?

[sakimano]

along with AZ member mrmomo313 who ran his b8 APR stg 2 (intake) right next to me. I took logs on one of the passes and can confirm that the bypass valve was closed, so the tune is functional.

DA was 1410 Milan Michigan, best run occurred at around 830 pm. You can see my mods on AZ, but basically intake/exhaust/lw rotors/front BBK/stg 2 apr/19" flow-formed PSS setup.

What were the other guys mods exactly? where are those timeslips? Is he DSG or manual? Are you?

[My_S5_afe_Hyden]

Let’s keep any personal comments about people out of it, please. Again, I’m just looking to help my customers, and likewise trying to identify any problem we may or may not have. IF we have a problem, I’m here to make sure it’s understood and fixed, but that doesn’t seem to be the case.

I think it’s pretty simple. First off his other mods are virtually worthless. Catbacks on this car do almost nothing. Headers do literally nothing on a tuned car. So it all comes down to his tune and pulley for performance.

The APR tune (or any of them) isn’t adding a TON of power below 6000 RPM, right? The big delta is above 5000 or 5500 (can’t remember where the boost bleedoff starts to happen stock.

OK.

So, if you’re a 2014 car, and a DSG car, getting a tune is going to accomplish keeping the boost bypass valve open from 5500 to 6200 RPM…where your new lame-ass 2014 redline kicks in and ruins the fun.

He has stage 2 so he SHOULD have delta of what…20 whp/wtq or so from 0-5500 RPM, right? Well 20 whp or wtq isn’t going to be obvious, performance wise unless you’re a race car driver with amazing feel, so there’s that.

Sure your AFR is a little leaner, and maybe you run a hair more timing but what are we looking at if you leave the boost bypass alone and are basically making a tune for parameters you’d tune on an NA car…10 whp over at APR? So he’s likely looking at total delta of around 30 whp from 0-5500 RPM, and a good bit more above that, but is forced to change gear at 6200 RPM.

Further, he ran his car at the strip with your stage 2 pulley and tune in worse DA than when he went stock. To the tune of around 1000 feet I believe. AKA about 3% of his power. AKA 3% of around 375 whp. AKA about 10-12 whp. SO the DA pretty much wiped out a good bit of the modest delta from the pulley, and the early onset of the new redline means he isn’t be n 3 fitting much from the tuning.

Bottom line? Get that damn TCU tune working because the facelift guys really need it. GIAC is eating your lunch, results wise, on the facelifted cars.

I incredibly well thought out. If all the information you mentioned is correct what’s the expectations for a stage 1 dsg car?

[notarmed]

Low 13’s in the winter. And I bet a coke hansel was running his ac and listening to techno in the que line heat soaking his car to 11.

[primetime]

Arin, I’ve tried to help Ed with logging, interpreting the logs, and explaining why I think his car is slower than he’d like it to be… From what I’ve seen 95% of his issue is the fact that he shifts from 1-2 at 5800RPM and 2-3 and 3-4 at 6000-6200 RPM thus never really hitting the power band… The other 5% is the coniditions… His MAF readings and boost values aren’t great but he’s logging in high temps and humidity which I tried to explain to him… He is a very nice fellow but takes lots of explaining and doesn’t want to seem to accept some things… I told him a switch to Revo would be foolish as the car will shift early… With that being said I still think there is something different with the 2014’s as there is a GIAC car that ran mid 13’s with tune and DSG tune… Figured I’d share FWIW…

[sakimano]

he shifts from 1-2 at 5800RPM and 2-3 and 3-4 at 6000-6200 RPM thus never really hitting the power band

what the hell…same as drob’s logs

that’s a great way to kill your 60’ time and all ETs thereafter. You change to second at redline in a B8 DSG car at 7000 at what…32 mph normally? You’re probably hitting 60’ at around 35 mph so first and part of second count your 60’ time. The manual guys change to 2nd at 40 mph, so they’re through the 60’ by the 1-2 shift.

If you’re changing at 5800 RPM on a car that shifts at 35 mph at 7000 , that means these new cars are shifting at around 29 MPH…and are being dumped down to 3500 RPM in 2nd…where you have to lug your way out of it. This is killing your ET for the whole track.