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What do you mean ‘failed’?
If you buy a watch and smash it off a cement wall did it fail, or did you?
If you accidentally smash your car in to a brick wall at 30 mph and fuck the front end did your bumper’ fail’?
I don’t think I’d say it failed. I’d say something is fucked up on your car causing the problem… Not the parts failing.
Yeah I don’t think you can possibly blame JHM here. The part is a conduit for something broken in your system.
I said they failed because they did. Failed as in mechanically failed, as in mechanically broke https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Failure_causes#Mechanical_failure. Pretty simple if you ask me. I didn’t say that they were the root cause, or that other test pipes cats wouldn’t have had a problem. But for it to happen so soon is surprising. Especially on the road going 75 mph when before it was assumed that the cause was track driving and all that heat. Not sure why I can’t post those statements without you lecturing me?
When did I blame jhm? All I said was the test pipes failed (broke) and that I was surprised how quick this happened. I’m not putting any blame on them.
I just ordered the Milltek exhaust, so I am clearly taking steps to try and fix the problem…if you have a better suggestion - I’m all ears.
Also, your analogies are fucking ridiculous. I didn’t smash anything or break anything on purpose. You are just sensationalizing it to point out that something else is wrong with my car. No shit. I installed them and used them exactly like they were intended.
It would be nice to see exactly what is causing so much load and if it can be more pinpointed. Sux to hear it happened again.
One thing I noticed while driving the car home with the broken test pipe was that when I lift while coming to a stop, the engine seemed to make a loud ‘pop’, almost like backfire loud. Maybe had to do with one bank being connected to the exhaust and the other bank being pretty much no exhaust. It’s always made cool noises while lifting, and I just figured timing was significantly retarded and some unburned fuel was getting into the manifold. I think the failure occurred while coming to a stop, so maybe this somehow played a role? I’m guessing more the straw that broke the camels back.
How are my analogies not analogous? Where did I day the guy who smashed his watch or front end did so on purpose? When things cause something to break using the word ‘fail’ is a poor choice. This isn’t mech Eng 101. This is a ou pic forum.
You can pretend you aren’t blaming jhm or questioning their part all you want. It’s clear that this is what you did.
And I’m not lecturing you. Just letting you know you are using the wrong language and sound like a blamer.
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I didn’t read that as drob was blaming JHM. I read it as a dude that was frustrated as fuck with two pretty major failures (however you want to define that). Maybe because my job for the past 15 years was dealing only with technical problems, but that’s a failure in my book; and very clearly one not necessarily JHM’s fault. I mean, the part that failed in the basic sense of the word was the test pipe. Anyone reading that should also walk away with the idea that there are other forces at work that caused the failure (or at least I did…).
This! I don’t think Mike is blaming JHM, just frustrated and I would be too…
Mike, hang in there bud you’ll get it sorted out…
Ya i don’t see this as an attack on JHM and i would’ve worded it the same way. The part failed. Whats causing the issue made the part fail but it failed. Anyways, hope you figure this out.
Agreed. And these are the kind of failures that make you hate your car…hang in there man.
Also thinking about west’s suggestion on the trans mount insert. It must be worth taking it off when weighing potential risk vs positives.
Thanks guys for the kind words. I wouldn’t be posting here if not for the great users here who provide support and advice. This has been especially frustrating because we just got a new puppy and needed the two cars to coordinate working remotely so the dog isn’t alone for extended time. Not to mention I was planning to go to Grattan this weekend with my local chapters only real annual HPDE.
Anyways, I’m going to work with JHM and some local help here to fix this thing once and for all so this never happens again. I will probably remove the 034 trans mount and the akipol diff bushing just to be certain. I will say kudos to Mops on AZ for giving me a great deal on the Milltek resonated system. Several hundred less than any other vendor was willing to do.
Now I just need to get the O2 sensor off the broken pipe and get the manifold flange bolts off. Shouldn’t be too hard since it’s only been a month with those bolts, so no rust etc. Then the plan is to re-weld the pipe to the flange in a manner that WILL NOT FAIL AGAIN. The amount of $$ and hassle this issue has brought is pushing me over the edge…
Hang in there and yes MOPS is the man! Met him a few times and he is just a super nice guy who seems like he wants to help everyone.
Mops A5 runs high 15’s tho.
Damn wish I saw this before it was deleted.
Did you consider putting the stock catback back on? Rather than buying another $2000 exhaust?
What if you put milltek on and it happens again? Then what?
I think I’d want less variables not more. The labour for these cat pipes or test pipes isn’t inconsequential and the market loss from new to second hand on exhausts is similar.
Anyway good luck.
See you on the puppy forums.
Well this is interesting http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/669009-Broken-JHM-Test-Pipe-Weld
If it’s not broken or due for preventative maintenance replacement, don’t mod it.