Caling out BWT - defend yourself!

[beemercer]

EVERYONE assumes that an S model Audi is forced induction. Every time people ask what I drive, I just say “Audi S4” and the response 99% of the time is “on yeah the twin turbo one”. Then I slap the bitch out of them.

I love domestics, and it seems a lot of us v8 s4 guys do. JHM, beem, jdubya, Jfunkey, etc. ALL domestic NA guys. Point is, if your not a domestic guy, you’re a tuner and you have a DSM background so you always go for the booster cars. Just kind of building on what Saki said.

Saki what were your previous cars? You have no “roots” lol

iirc he had an IS300 previous to the Audis.

There are also lots of VW, Honda and scoobiroo kids who move into B5s… but same deal where big power only comes from a big turbo.

[beemercer]

1. Did your car have cats on it when you ran that 12.9? I’ll definitely be hitting the strip next spring.

2. I’ve never understood the hate on the 4.2NA. I think people just wrote it off when no good mods came along for the first 3-4 years. Then, luckily for us, JHM took over and proved everyone wrong.

1. I was catless when I went 12.9 (full 2.5). THink about this though…I ran 12.9 @ 107.8 with a 1.82 60 foot time thanks to JHM launch assist. I was piggies with main cats + 2.5 fast intentions when I went 13.21 @ 107.39 with a 1.92 60 foot with no launch assist. MPH didn’t change much. Only 1/2 mph. Piggies flow well! There’s a full tenth off just the 60 foot…which should translate to maybe 15 hundredths on the 1/4 mile ET. That means in reality I could have gone about 13.05-13.10 with piggies if I was able to launch the car better. So the difference between 2.5 catless and piggies wasn’t really all that much.

2. I think lots of people come from a background where they need cheap hp gains (i.e. boosted cars that can gain quick with a tune) because frankly buying a car that is out of the box powerful just isn’t on the financial agenda for most young folks (the majority of forum members are 21 and under…about 60%). So you get lots of people who were nurtured in the modding scene that boost is best. Getting 50 whp out of a B5 S4 was literally a $600 tune and free piggies away. Getting it out of a B6 S4 in 2006 was impossible. Getting it out of a B6 S4 today is possible, but it’s a three thousand dollars. So there’s always going to be that resistance to NA.

It’s funny though, in the domestic scene where massive power gains are achieved NA, nobody’s screaming ‘fail’ when the new Mustang comes out 5.0 all motor…and runs 11s with tires and bolt ons. The domestic scene gets it. Audi guys, for the most part, don’t. Audi people shouldn’t be turning a blind eye to the fact that 2 JHM RS4s ran 12.2 all motor with just bolt ons in the past 3 weeks. But they do in order to keep their ‘NA = FAIL’ argument valid.

When I was at the strip 2 weeks ago a couple of C6 vette guys and I were chatting and they thought the RS4 was pretty cool. One of them also remembered watching their friend lose to George’s red RS4. The funniest thing that was said? “I usually don’t care much for the Audis that come out…always little turbo motors. That red car was fun to watch. Nice to see those V8 Audis come out”. It was so opposite…like the Bizzarro version of Audi forum world lol.

I’ve had similar experiences with domestic/diesel guys. They always got a kick out of my S4 having a V8 becuase its such a small unassuming car with a decent sized motor in it… that was the original muscle car ethos, small car big V8, so I think they can respect that. And they love the sound too, a nice change from the typical import racket of missfiring scoobi-roos, farting-droney VWs, tin can hondas, raspy bmws, garbage VQ35s and idontevenknowhowtodescribehowbadtheysound rotaries that are more common.

[karsty]

EVERYONE assumes that an S model Audi is forced induction. Every time people ask what I drive, I just say “Audi S4” and the response 99% of the time is “on yeah the twin turbo one”. Then I slap the bitch out of them.

I get that response a lot of the time too.

I love domestics, and it seems a lot of us v8 s4 guys do. JHM, beem, jdubya, Jfunkey, etc. ALL domestic NA guys. Point is, if your not a domestic guy, you’re a tuner and you have a DSM background so you always go for the booster cars. Just kind of building on what Saki said.

When I was a teenager I was all about Hot Rod mags and stuffing a 350 V8 into my S-10 truck. I loved American muscle. After college, I got into the import scene. A 1994 Eagle Talon, then a 2006 WRX, then a 2007 STI, now my my RS4. I wouldnt say I’m a domestic guy and I wouldnt say I’m a tuner either…I have background in both. I will say that I love the N/A V8 in my RS though!

[sakimano]

they love the sound too, a nice change from the typical import racket of missfiring scoobi-roos, farting-droney VWs, tin can hondas, raspy bmws, garbage VQ35s and idontevenknowhowtodescribehowbadtheysound rotaries that are more common.

lol that’s a hilarious mouthful

[Shawn_hornet]

When I was a teenager I was all about Hot Rod mags and stuffing a 350 V8 into my S-10 truck. I loved American muscle. After college, I got into the import scene. A 1994 Eagle Talon, then a 2006 WRX, then a 2007 STI, now my my RS4. I wouldnt say I’m a domestic guy and I wouldnt say I’m a tuner either…I have background in both. I will say that I love the N/A V8 in my RS though!

While Im still a young pup. I looked at it the same way. Then as I startaed going to the track I would see these tubed out 350 chevy cars getting the piss kicked out of them by the smaller better evolved GNX cars. then as time went on you started to see the Twin S cars getting there fast on… the Old qupe quattro cars the 5cylinder turbo cars just putting down some serious speed and then looking at the mighty domestic cars like geezzz that is out dated.,

The RS4 and the n/a 4.2 Audi motors show how to put brain power into horse power. Now with the 3.0 Im hoping we can get some of the domestic power put into the german engeenering. This looks to be part of the JHM MO so we iwll see how it comes along so far so good