Dragstrip visit + Interesting logging results

And now your banned. Congratulations on no longer being welcome here. Go calculate sewage pumps and insult members else where. This marks the 8th web site you have now been kicked off from.

Its amazing how many people don’t want you here. Due to the fact that this forum is run by its members and your comments above you’re no longer welcome here.

This post just made my day…thanks GOD…haha I also enjoyed how he posted in the 4.2 compression test numbers thread and reiterated the info from countvohn’s first post stating the compression number limits.

hahaha I caught that as well.

Fuck AurtherPEE that guy is so full of shit. You can’t bel;ieve anything that guy says. One minute he works as a civel engeenerr and when he is clearly clueless on motors to try and give himself some creditibiltuy he now worjks on motors… ahahahahaha what a dusche that god for god and the fact that thsi site is run by us. You know somewhere FAW is laughing even he is still here.

and now that aurther PE the childmolesting looser isn’t here.

I would like to add that carbon robs power.

Here is REAL PEOPLE THAT DO THIS FOR REAL. There isn’t million of dollars spent in making sure to work to eliminate carbon. Fuck for god sakes you hear it over and over how carbon can rob pwer. So go suck on a sewage pump you fag

All this owrk cause carbon is as Looser PE puts it “they do not cost any power”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDQhfnpuvpA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k84pLFRhcBw&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rSu-mKHrKo&feature=related

From people who actually build motors. ME :slight_smile: carbon debate is simple. Little amounts of carbon can start issues of the motor running less effiecent. large amounts of carbon that actually block ports or disturb flow will be on the inset of causing a power loss. The power loss will be directly related to the amount of flow blockage.

This gem from the aurther
“one of the cars had the worse carbon I’ve ever seen, 70% occluded Audi removed the heads to clean, new gaskets, plugs, etc.
still no difference”

Lets use common sense. If porting heads and increasing flow by just 2% can help make a mountin of power how is a blockage of 70% not going to effect power. It is. The carbon isn’t bad even at 70% is why no one is getting ahead.

Carbon is an issue. The amount of carbon needed to rob power isn’t small. There needs to be a large enough amount to seriously disturb flow. if you have 70% blockage your loosing power.

If I’m not mistaken. Isn’t this the same guy that would endlessly argue and when he ran out of actual information he would start putting Off stance math to try and throw everyone off. Attempting to look smart seemingly hiding behind long mathematical figures that generally were not even relevant to the automotive applications.

This is the same guy that didn’t understand that boost is a measurement of how hard a FI unit is working. Only to carry on slowly loosing creditability with each post.

Good ridden. Thanks God. This guy is a moron.

Back to the actual conversation.

Audi has recognized carbon as a power disturbance. More then that carbon effects the motor. Is the power the main concern. Some yes some no. Carbon is the source of many issues. From cold start misfires, pinging of the motor under load, cylinder wall damage, piston damage the list goes on. This is DIRECTLY from AOA data behind warranty issues.

Power can be effected and its argued that the loss can be seen better on a dyno. This Theory is in part due to the fact that the dyno test is ran at such RPM and speeds that the motor isn’t able to benefit from the oncoming air, air that would normally be there when the car is traveling at say 60mph. Due to the motor not having the aid of the extra volume of air, the over all need for the motor and its supporting cast of parts is going to be more effected.

Like it or not. We have all seen AOA included that carbon can effect power when tested on a dyno.

Why not at the track? Well in part how much hp is it going to take to slow the car down by say 4mph. I think the questions shouldn’t be how much hp is going to slow the car down by 4mph but how much carbon would it take to slow the car down by that much.

Nobody in this thread said carbon isn’t an issue. In fact, if you look at the OP, I state that I think it’s definitely an issue. Most notably for engine safety (FOD) and it also robs the engine of some of its V8 silky smootheness.

I just don’t think it’s as much of a power robbing issue as it is made out to be. Maybe my car and Mistro’s car are the exceptions to the rule…however until some of the guys saying carbon robs you of all kinds of power, etc start showing me performance testing that proves otherwise, my stance stands. We’ve done our homework. Until someone with an RS4 hands in their homework, I will continue saying what I’ve said above regarding my 40,000 mile car and Mistro’s 55,000 mile car.

Carbon buildup power loss claims are overblown.

Just to be clear, that wasn’t an insult. I simply love watching you argue with other people. I expected more than two posts though…

That was fast, he came in the front door and flew out the back without ever touching the floor. A little surprised he took the tone he did right off the bat. I thought he’d enjoy some debate with members here.

Thanks saki on the testing of the fuels. Good info as usual!
This was about the same result i came up with 2mph with about 2 tenths.

Im planing on november 17th , ill be running 1/4 mile at a euro meet here in florida. I am expecting good results. if all goes well i should be 11.7’s to 11.9’s.

Is the arthur guy , the same one who says " its impossible to run 12.2’s with those mods! light weight anything dont help at all!!"

^yeah your results are impossible so you must be bullshitting according the arthur…

best of luck, get some videos

Just what I was thinking. Welcome, sir. A bit belated, but I was away until today.

This is my first post here. I’m a turbo MR2 guy… but don’t hold that against me. I should be the proud owner of an 04 B6 S4 Avant next week. I’m excited, since I stumbled onto this forum after browsing all the other audi forums, and being disappointed with the seeming lack of technical knowledge from the members. This forum seems like the place I want to be. :wink:

I like all the logging you are doing, and I wonder if you are logging the knock sensors? If so, what do they show as temps go up and timing and throttle position go down? I was surprised to see the DBW actually controls throttle position as a safety feature. That is a cool strategy, and is it one that is tune-able?

Thanks,
Scott
ATS Racing

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RPF1’s now put on.

Wheels look great (not just for asian imports) but there is something missing over the middle of your engine! :o

Welcome Scott. B6 S4 avants are the best!

Wheels looking good for the show, looking forward to seeing the results of the go.

I suspect CC.

I hope for some port matching and polishing!

Actually that is what I plan to do over next summer. I’m just doing a quick carbon cleaning and installing Jhm crank pulley.

I’m just optimistic…haha I actually just broke down my passenger side head tonight, off to the machine shop tomorrow to get cleaned up. I’m going to gasket match them and replace all of my valve seals…40 valve V8=pain in the ass just in case anyone was wondering.

Tuned yet?