Engine out thread

WHOA! Ya the oil in the manifold doesn’t seem right to me… it makes sense that it would be from a bad oil seperator. It would also explain the serious carbon buildup.

Great writeup by the way!

Great job documenting this. The carbon oven foam needs to sit for a while and one of the best ways to help is to spray the foam in and use the zip ties in the foam but be careful as to not splash

On the intake. Is the oil I see next to the intake is that oil that leaked out after you removed it. If so thats way too much oil and a big concern.

Yes, and Yes. My mechanic said the intake vacuum was sucking in the oil from a bad oil separator. I’m hoping a new oil separator will fix the problem, but if you guys have any other ideas, I’m all ears.

I did notice that twice while driving up a mountain over bumpy cobble stone roads I’d get a low oil warning light for no apparent reason. Now I’m thinking maybe it’s because all that oil was sucked into the IM…

Here is the culprit - a torn membrane in the oil separator. Mechanic said he had hear a faint vacuum leak before. Idle vacuum was probably sacking in oil from the sump.

http://imgur.com/23O28pe.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/IovezdQh.jpg

Intakes valves are now carbon cleaned (but not spotless like some other photos I’ve seen), JHM spacers installed, and IM back on.

http://i.imgur.com/ZPIi3Gzh.jpg

Also got the new belt and idle pulley installed

WOW good find on the oil seperator. Can you load that directly to the site. Something like that can be very helpful. I wonder how many others might have had that same issue. That might be something lingering issue with several V10s. I know that that same issue happens to the 2.0t guys.

The intake spacers look good. Looks like it is comming along well

Q: what’s the word on the oil separator coolant bypass kit with the intake spacers - would you use it for a NY style winter? Or does that qualify as extreme cold?

Are you talking about the coolant line that runs through the intake. The S4 guys have been running it for years with no issues. Think about it. When the car sits over night its not like the coolant is warm on cold starts everything is cold.

So we had to open the IM again to check out a misfire but I was disappointed to see how quickly the carbon builds up. These 2 photos were taken after maybe 5 mins of engine run time - car hasn’t even come off the lift.

http://i.imgur.com/zTSUtnVh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/n9XZMgch.jpg

oh yes. carbon will collect quick.

that’s amazing…5 minutes of carbon

shows you that it’s probably about the same at 25,000 miles as it is at 5,000 miles, so all the people whose butt dyno say they noticed the car losing top end when they’re 15-25 thousand miles after a cleaning are full of shit.

This also shows that the car is probably performing very similarly at 5,000 miles after a cleaning as it is 25,000 miles after, thus it’s not that big of a deal.

I think what actually happened was that the valves spun around when the car was running and is now showing you what was on the back of the stem when you did the cleaning. This is just the stuff that didn’t get cleaned because you couldn’t see it.

Karma bump for you. Great point. When you look at the carbon clump you can tell thats a seasoned collection. Carbon will build up at low speed idle conditions and cold start issues.

While it can build up quickly it wont have clumps for a while

to be fair, the carbon was still soft and could be relatively easily cleaned. we’ll see what the car feels like once it’s on the road again.

While checking out the engine codes we were having a problem with bank 2: the left intake cam sensor, oil pressure switch, and coil packs

Look what we found - torn insulation behind the T14h 14-pin brown connector routing wires to ECU2. Don’t know exactly when this occurred, but the connector is located behind the IM below the oil filter. My mechanic thinks excess heat or hot oil may have contributed.

http://i.imgur.com/2k1UiGXh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/x0oXsJnh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/84swyiLh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/SG081iSh.jpg

We are searching for another connector to solder and re-pin. Arrrrgh!

looks like a rodent had a chew

i love that last picture

Right, looks like fancy art

That looked horrible. What caused that.

I have no idea of the cause. The insulation was dried out and brittle at the point of failure, but we may have exacerbated the problem when we took out the engine/harness. My mechanic ended up just soldering the wires directly and wrapping with extra head shielding. fingers crossed.

http://i.imgur.com/j8LIWYc.jpg

The engine is back in and the car put together. It seems to run smoothly, with no misfires, but I have a few more issues to shake out. we’ll try to do a final checkout after I drive it for a few hours.

The engine is back in and the car is running perfectly!

Well, except for a gear shift sensor that isn’t detecting the “P” position unless I give it an extra shove. For completeness sake, here is a link to an issue we had with the intake manifold installation - there was a bracket that was interfering with the flap operation. http://audirevolution.net/forum/index.php?topic=3790.msg109446#msg109446

and a pic

http://audirevolution.net/forum/index.php?topic=3790.msg109446#msg109446

It all looks good. I posted a picture of the install without the bracket. It is much cleaner