Logging?

B8 S4
#21

There is no “WIRELESS VCDS for APPLE computers ONLY”!!!

There is Hex-Net which operates through WIFI and can be used with either VCDS mobile app or on a Mac by connecting through a browser window. Both of those options may provide you limited functions compared to the full cabled version on a windows computer.

I have the Hex-Net VCDS and I can probably help you out with it.

As long as you agree to stop acting like an idiot and using exclamation points.

#22

When one gets old one has the right to act like an idiot, just like the younger folks. Regardless, I called Hex Net, Ross Tech or what ever you prefer to call them. I told them I had a Mac. I was told the only product they had for Mac’s was a wireless, brand new, box, still in it’s infancy but being improved every day wireless box. I asked if it was as good as the current mostly used boxes and was advised, I paraphrase, that no it wasn’t because the current successful machine has years of development in it. I made a mistake and bought it anyway.That’s the truth! (Am I permitted to use at least one exclamation point?) Trouble is the box, wireless, is too slow to do any logging, at least to MY Mac. I then purchased an ASUS combination touch pad and keyboard device. They are detachable. Don’t know model number or name but it uses Windows. I have a 22 year old son that is a computer wiz, but he works. Getting him to give me some time is difficult. He comes home last night and we get ready to go but the Hex Net gives us over an hour of updates to be down loaded. Killed the chance. My version has no “turbo button” and the numbers for each of the items in the car, to be logged, don’t match the suggested numbers given to me. I hope to double check that tonight and try again. Also, I’m using the cable from the box to the ASUS computer to expedite logging if I can ever get to that point? Tonight? We have had some limited success in the past. Thanks.

#23

I’ll make this brief…I may even make you a video later

So you do have the Hex-Net dongle…thank you

  1. Using the dongle completely wirelessly as an access point may reduce the options available to you.
  2. You may be attempting to log too much information…“slow speed”
  3. The actual operating system edition or version is important…simply having windows is not sufficient.
  4. Your son may be a computer whiz in your mind, but that doesn’t make him a VCDS whiz or mean that he actually understands networking and the protocols involved. He may just use facebook and instagram and in your mind he is a Whiz.
  5. Lastly your car is a B8.5 and some of the newer models ECU comm changed. I read on the Ross-tech HexNET forum that a guy was having issues with available measuring blocks for his '14 S5 and a UDS/ODX protocol was mentioned which is new and does not support the classic numbered measuring blocks.

I just bought the HexNET this past Friday and I actually live right down the road from Rosstech. But I have read up on it a lot, just need to explore it a little more. I plan to make a video and start a DIY/Help thread here…so I’ll try and mess with it tonight. I can possible give you or your son some simple directions…maybe you could even get some love Sunday during your runs at the strip.

#24

I have a 2014 S5 and my VCDS USB works just fine on Windows 7 Pro.

I can log 12 items and turbo works fine.

#25

I’ll put it this way, my son knows a hell of a lot more about computers than I do. Regardless, I thank you for your help and advice. I was warned by Ross Tech this box would be updated constantly. Hopefully we have them all and tonight will be successful?

Boost easy, yes, all we can do is 12 items at once as well. Again, if I can get past all the updates perhaps I figure it out? I have no “Turbo Mode”.

#26

Turbo mode may only be available when using classic VCDS with the USB cable and a proper windows version.

#27

Anything is possible with my limited knowledge and my son’s impatience with this old man. I have windows 8 and all the updates are complete? Tonight?

#28

It looks like I’ll be able to pull it off tonight. Unfortunately Gold Star Saki is seeking an “injunction” against me. He doesn’t like free speech. If he is successful I know this site is run by Fascists and obviously I simply don’t belong here. Bow to Saki…he is God.

#29

lol were you trying to post about successful logs or take another stab at Saki?

#30

Have you looked in the DIY video section on this site? There’s a vagcom video in there you’d find some answers by watching that video. I know it helped me.

#31

Both

#32

I will do so if we’re not successful tonight. Thanks

#33

Logging successful. In an e-mail form. If anybody still wants it please advise.

#34

Good news. Glad to hear you got that accomplished. I get real impatient and annoyed when seemingly simple things arent.

#35

Ed, I’d be glad to take a look at them and offer some feedback if you’d like… I think you know my email but I’ll PM you my work one…

#36

Ron, yes, please do. I have it somewhere but don’t know if I can find it. Thanks

#37

This was my response from the other site after looking at the logs:

Interesting. The logs look similar to the other 2014 Revo logs I have seen. Timing is high at around 20-21 degrees, and no knock detected/timing pull any where. The interesting thing is that it is bypassing/bleeding off a lot of boost the entire time, and this is something no other tune does. You’d be making a lot more power if it was not doing this. It is mostly in the 5-15% range, but spikes up to 50-60% in some cases. I’ve speculated on this before, but I don’t know if Revo is doing this instead of pulling timing.

Everything else looks good. Air Mass is solid topping out at over 1300 kg/h (thanks to the Roc-Euro intake). IAT’s are low due to the weather and coolant system. The only thing perplexing is the boost bypass; it’s definitely effecting the performance with that much being bypassed.

#38

2nd and 3rd gear:
http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss146/jran76/Skywagon2ndand3rdgear_zps73570ada.jpg

#39

Interesting, I think we saw this in the over revo stg 1+ logs…so essentially they are controlling knock via the bypass valve. Is there a better signal to grab that would show what the knock microphones are returning? I.e. we could see if they simply don’t execute timing pull via the knock sensors, but still use the knock detection measurement to bleed boost? I suppose that would involve some speculation however.

#40

This is exactly what I was wondering as well. The response Revo posted the other week with the info from their engineer seemed to indicate, at least to me, that at some point not only would it pull boost, but timing as well if knock, temp, etc justified doing so at some threshold. That’s why I am very curious to see on successive back to back pulls once heat soaked will we see both timing and boost pulled.

Also couple questions for those here with a lot more experience that I have with tunes…

I realize we don’t have many data points to go on, but would you consider this alternative tuning approach by REVO (leveraging boost primary and potentially timing secondary) as safe as managing through timing alone (APR/GIAC)?

Also anyone have any logs from a MRC car to see what approach they use in the UK?