Or he’s getting a cut of every device sold so the better it shows the better his pocket book is? That would be my guess…
It does seem VERY strange. Although he did vehemently deny any involvement in the business when he came here and then ran away. The first time lol.
It’s funny but basically the only guys to get the chipwerke are corner cutters trying to save a buck over the real deal and hoping to get away with it.
Turns out Mike is the same with his maintenance…took his car to a quick oil change shop and it looks like whole trying to save 20 bucks it will cost him about a thousand.
Good to see him learn a lesson. Maybe he will abandon chipwerke and the inevitable xspower downpipes /exhaust after this.
[QUOTE=bhvrdr]I already blame myself enough and am aware what I did was stupid by not taking my car to a more trusted shop or doing the work myself but i’ll share this post anyways and be ready for the flaming 
I was looking through Groupon and saw a $49 deal to get a full synthetic oil change at the Valvoline Instant Oil Change place. So I figured, why not do an added 5K interval change at such a cheap price. I cant buy the parts that cheap so whats to lose right? …and there is where my mistake lies and what turned into a 4 hour ordeal that involved police.
I pulled up to the oil change place and stayed in the car. A couple minutes into the change I feel a jarring / ripping sensation through the floor of the car. I’m thinking, “Hmmm, I hope they know to slide the aero belly pan to the rear to let it drop down instead of pulling on it.” …I make a mental note.
So now they are at the stage where the person up top starts to pour in the motor oil. He starts to poor it in and stops pretty quickly yelling to the guy below to make sure he drained it all out as it is overflowing. … Mental note number two. Hmm.
So a few minutes go buy and I call the manager over and mention to him that I would appreciate it if he make sure all the 1/4 turn fasteners are put correctly back into place because they are very expensive to replace. He smiles and assures me he will make sure that happens.
So now the oil is supposedly back in the car and we are about to close our transaction. I’m standing at the front of the car now and i’m staring at a 1/4 turn fastener sitting on the ground under the front of my car. I’m waiting…waiting…waiting for someone to pick it up to put it in or to tell me “You’re all set.” …and sure enough I hear…“You’re all set you are good to go.” So I bend over and pick up the 1/4 turn fastener and ask to talk to the manager.
The manager comes over and I point out to him that his person just left $20 worth of fastener of mine on the floor and I’d like to go into his pit to see what else is missing. He takes me down into the pit where I see this…
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I’m looking up at the car at first and I see the DSG drain plug right there and there is DSG fluid all over it and dripping. I’m thinking “Why can I see the DSG drain plug? Theres supposed to be an aero pan covering this?” and i’m also thinking…“Oh crap, they drained the DSG fluid.”
As I keep looking up my brain starts to register what it is seeing. Holy crap, this guy cut my car into pieces. My aero pan has a huge hole cut into it. I’m standing in the oil pit now with the tech and the manager and I ask the tech if he did this to my car and if he drained my DSG fluid. He says absolutely not. Well since I am under my car every week and I know no one else was under my car I’m finding that very hard to believe. So I took it upon myself to walk around their oil pit until I found two of these…
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Yeah, sitting in their trash can are two pieces of my aero pan he cut out. At this point i’m thinking that I need witnesses, and alot of them. I call my wife and I called the police so I could at least get a report.
It looks like this is what happens…
- Employee cuts hole in transmission aero pan and drains DSG fluid.
- Tech tries to put in motor oil and it overflows all over the engine because no engine oil was ever removed.
- Tech and manager were going to let me drive on my way with no DSG fluid and massively overfilled engine oil in which case id likely be out an engine and transmission.
I had the car flat bedded to Audi and will await the damage on MON. I’m worried they tried to cover up their mistake of draining the DSG fluid and put some no name brand automatic transmission fluid in the DSG in which case I dont even want to know how I can get Audi to test the fluid in there to see if it is non OEM.
I have learned my lesson. This sunday sucks.
Mike
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Holy shit. That’s pretty much why I go to the dealership, at least the dealership they know something about cars, and they get drug tested. However, I’m not surprised at the person who went to a 50$ oil change, the same cheap guy who thinks the chipwerke is a good purchase for the price… ha.
Thats actually shocking that someplace would do that. I cant believe that. It does seem fitting as he went cheap on the tune and cheap on the oil change and it seem to have ended bad each time
Wow! That is ugly… Feel bad for him but come on man why are you taking your car there in the first place… I get being busy but still a jiffy lube place, sigh… I guess he’ll have to sell some more “tuning boxes”… Speaking of which I’m pretty much 100% sure he’s compensated by CW, as he made yet another new thread to document his progress…
Yeah he obviously is - I mean look at these plugs in his post:
-There may be jerkiness in DSG shifting.
-You may have to clear an underboost code once a year or so.
-Probably can only take advantage of up to 96 octane or so.
-People will make fun of you for having a piggy back.
I think you guys are paranoid.
Really? That’s a fraction of his post and read the areas I’ve bolded… Read his other threads(see below)
You can drink his kool aid as well, I could care less, but if you really think he isn’t pushing that device and being compensated you’re an idiot, sorry… He’s made numerous threads and countless endorsements on threads… When one gets locked or dies down he creates a new one to keep the interest. He is also good at playing the other side of well with the whole I’ll eventually get tuned, yeah sure you can’t do that if you want to keep pushing this product. The funny thing is vendorzine puts up with it, so in the end good for him.
I’m not paranoid about anything, just pointing shit out in the end it impacts me 0%… Go CW! Wonder what they’ll develop next for our cars?
Well lets just pretend for the moment that some other honest, helpful person decided to test this new device that goes heavily against the mainstream. I’d expect to see detailed before/after track data, dynos, and logs. Check. I’d expect to hear both the goods AND the bads of the device. Check.
And if it brought out controversy, defensiveness, and unhappy vendors on AZ that got the thread locked down, I’d expect someone motivated by truth to start another thread with yet more hard data. Not an advertiser but someone trying to fight the advertising machine. I suppose when you are going against the grain it may look to some like you are trying too hard.
The irony is I see Mike’s principles aligning more with what you guys stand for and what you don’t like about AZ, and yet you see him as another advertiser, which is too bad.
the things you listed…the ‘negatives’
are they really negatives, or are they someone casting sarcasm at what others are calling negatives. Let’s look at them
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the dsg crack - this isn’t much of a negaative since dsg is already jerky, but it’s a negative that he posts, so I’ll give you that, but as primetime mentioned, he didn’t say it would happen…he said it might happen.
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the code that you may (not always) have to clear once a year. Nowhere on earth is that a negative. We clear codees quarterly already
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probably can only take advantage of 96 octane or so. Umm…99% of guys never TOUCH a race gas tune on their car, so this is a negative to virtually nobody
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people will make fun of you - again, this is sarcasm, pointing out that one of the only negatives (in his sales pitch) is not really a big deal, and is a big joke
So really , none of these were negatives other than the potential for a DSG jerkiness on some cars. Offset that with 30 pages of glowing ass kissing for this third rate, 10th best tuning option, and I think you can see that only the morons like yourself are being fooled by this guy.
Still crazy to me the amount of time and energy AZT spends defending this guy.
Hey man I won’t argue he’s done a pretty nice job of testing in comparison to others users and some company’s for that matter. I’ll even admit the product may produce some gains by tricking the ecu, even though something like that would never be for me it probably “works” to some extent.
Where we disagree is Mike being honest about this product and his relationship with CW. He’s getting paid IMO, no worries though I don’t post on vendorzine…
The whole advertiser/vendor thing is really weird these days… CW and Mike make all those threads and posts and get no flack really, which is weird given how the “management” has treated many including myself… I never asked APR but I’d bet they, GIAC, EPL, etc. complained but the threads persisted… Strange really… My guess is Toni is getting paid by these clowns as well… Again, means 0% to me just talking about it on our small forum over here…
As for Mike, I’ve interacted with him via email and the sites… No hard feelings from me just stating the facts…
think he’s on the payroll too? lol
how’s it going with your car? Any plans for 2 pulleys on it?
Gotta give the guy credit, between the CW convo and his oil change debacle he’s started 2 of the most viewed and commented on topics on AZ. If he’s indeed a marketing tool for CW he’s done his job well.
waiting for him to hashtag his oil change thread with chipwerke etc
I’m kinda in a holding pattern right now. I want to wait to see if APR can fix the TCU issues before I go any further. I’m also a little salty about the pulleys and how they were released. I would have waited to buy the oversized crank pulley had I known it was coming out a month after they released the light weight crank pulley. I guess it just would have been nice if I got a heads up from Jake about the oversize pulley, since he knew I was buying the lightweight crank pulley. Oh well, it is, what it is. I just can’t justify $500 right now after just spending $400, plus the cost to install. I like Jake on this forum, and I like what JHM is doing for our platform. Let’s just say that next time a product is released, I will wait a little before buying! Live and learn.
Ah that’s a bummer. See about selling one used maybe. Then tell jake to give you a deal on the od to cover part of the loss on used.
New or used shouldn’t price out much differently to be honest. It’s a lump that will always be 100%. It’s not like a tire that wears out.
Put your jhm lwcp on sale at say 10% cheaper than new price. If it sells get the od pulley.
In Jake’s defence they weren’t going to release the od pulley so soon.
Thats kinda sucks, but it really happens to a lot of people. JHM has always been pretty tight lipped about releasing things.
I rebuilt my heads with OEM parts a week after I was done JHM notified everyone of their rebuilt and upgraded head program. I would have most definitely waited and sent the heads to them for an upgrade if I would have known about it. I consider myself to have a pretty decent relationship with them and I even inquired about recommendations by them to see who they would trust to do a head rebuild.
The problem is you may have been perfectly fine with the LW pulley, like 99% of the B8 world with no interest in running a double pulley setup. Also, this doubly pulley thing just came up in the last month or so with decent results…the tunes aren’t even nailed down yet. The JHM part really is helping the B8 GUYS, especially if they are stock. They will be able to replace the shit OEM crank pulley and increase the boost of their supercharger for stage 2…AND reduce some rotating weight on the crank.
I think you should buy it and sell off the pulley you currently have. Sure you will loose a little $$, but there has to be a market for resale.
Yeah I do apologize for that, the OD pulley was something that we weren’t going to release for a while. I had mentioned that we had already had one developed in one of the AZ threads when a user started to tell us that we should make one and we got bombarded with inquires on the OD pulley. Since we had already proven it works like we intended it to we allowed people to get in on the first production batch with pre-sales and it kind of went from there.
If I had known that we would be releasing the OD pulley as soon as we did, I would have definitely have gone over it with you. I always do my best to help a customer get what they need or what best suits them instead of selling them on something they don’t.
Is the pulley brand new, and never installed? Can you email me some pics of it? I will see if I can pull some strings and give you full credit of the regular pulley towards the OD pulley.
Looks like Mike@CW went back to the strip… Very nice time given what he’s running… He went 12.21 at 112.88 Man I would love to run at this track…