Should be interesting to see how you “single handedly” advanced the B8 platform. You pretty much came out of nowhere, and seem to have no clue how this kit has failed time and time again on other Audi platforms, yet you claim to know something.
Question: do you own a B8? Are you affiliated with any of the dealers selling this kit? What is your interest here? And why are you so intent on solving the 1740 problem?
Clochner, if you can please move all this to the “my idea” thread. It’s bunk, and Euro’s right, it doesn’t deserve to be cluttering up this thread. I’ll respond there.
I’ll try to explain how it works:
here’s a picture I JUST took.
why isn’t the water all falling out of the bottle? because there is a vacuum at the top of the bottle - the water can’t flow down.
If you use a funnel and hose, higher than the intercoolers, to fill the reservoir HIGHER than the bleed screw, at the highest point of the intercooler - then shut the bleed screw - the air can’t somehow get back in there. When the pump is off, the high point in the intercoolers is JUST like the bottle. Under a slight vacuum. The air in the reservoir is trapped there - at the top of the reservoir. It is lighter than the coolant so it CAN’T travel down the hose.
I don’t need to check my “theory”, lol. If I didn’t know this kind of thing, I’d get laughed out of my office.
It’s not a big deal to have an idea proven wrong - but it gets annoying if you won’t at least try to understand and educate yourself when someone is taking the time to explain it to you.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/27/bf19cb8d031f4a667e8b1432adde204b.jpg
Actually, when you said that last time, I admitted you were right. You bringing that up made me think…
Ok so it’s POSSIBLE to fill this system correctly in this manner. But there would have to be no air below the cap, filled up tight. You follow?
What happens when Richi gets home with his car and decides to bleed his intercooler? Not knowing better (no offense buddy, I don’t know you) he opens the bleeder lets out some air, then opens the tank to top off the coolant?
You think that bleeder and tank are designed to never be open together at the same time? If he wants to bleed the system he’s gotta in bolt the tank and lift it up or get an extension funnel.
Life would be sooo much easier if the tank was up high. If you wanna check the system u open the tank and open the bleeder. If fluid doesn’t come out, you pour it in till it does. The you top it off, leave an inch of air at the top for expansion and bingo, easy bleed, room for expansion and any remaking air will raise to the top, automatically. If the level lowers its because air moved into the tank. Open tank top off. That’s the right way.
You think the techs working on the car never had the bleeder and tank open at the same time?
That’s why people should follow instructions and use the hose and funnel in the kit. See the picture.
So THAT’s what will singlehandedly save stage III? Gotten any responses yet from APR, RSW, or Magnuson yet?
This rates up there with the guy who fried his ECU and blamed APR for not telling him to disconnect his battery before touching electrical shit. And APR actually sent him a new ECU, IIRC.
I’ve got 1 positive response, so far, another asking for more detail.
Notice all the stage 3 pics have air in the expansion tank, the air is below the highest point.
Where is it gonna end up?
How bout this, try reverse engineering the tank as the highest point. What will happen if you put the tank as the highest point?
Once you figure that out you will know I’m right. It’s not that it’s impossible the way it is. Just way too complicated. Every time you open the cap and bleeder you will suck air in. Does that sound like the easiest way to bleed the system?
Water wants to level itself.
http://www.crracing.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Coolant-System-Overview.docx
Look you seem smart enough to get this, or I woulda given up already. I’ll call you right now and discuss it with you!
Answer this, what will happen if you put the tank as the highest point? The answer is right there… No reason to discuss if it’s possible the way it is.
From reading your self-serving posts so far, you’re the last person I would consider “right” on anything.
lol alky
plus I like your idea on intercooling better.
Is this still the setup Jones?
I honestly don’t understand why this debate has been going on for so long. The principle of bleeding the screws up top and removing the air is pretty well understood. Removing the cap on the lower reservoir will not allow air to instantly enter the system upstream as jspazz showed in his bill nye the science guy experiment lol. This is fairly simple.
Your proposal of re-engineering everything sounds wayyyy over the top. There is not necessarily room for your solution and who wants to have some massive ugly container in their engine bay just so that it can sit high? People also want their installs to be stealth/OEM for various reasons. If you look at my car you’d have no idea I have a CPS.
What we are most likely seeing is an installation shop that does not know how to properly install the CPS system/bleed the new blower. The criteria for being a “magnuson” installer was probably that they moved lots of APR products, not that they are a good competent shop. Or maybe a few of the techs are brand new 18 year old guys who still have lots to learn.
This is all pretty comical…lots of fail in this thread.
I’d give up Jspazz, I think you are wasting time on this one. He actually only wants someone to tell him how right he is and how he single handedly saved the APR1740 kit from failure. At least we now know his credentials though… :o
ooooohh…engineer catfight!
Bernanks, the scientific process generally involves proving a thesis doesn’t it? Let’s see if it is proven right first before we measure you up for the championship nerd belt.
If you can’t handle one guy (jspazz) disagreeing with your thesis, and are going to bolt from the forum after a week as a result, forum life may not be for you lol.
p.s. wouldn’t it be Bernanke’s Beard?
Did, ended up moving on from there a while back. Working in thin film optical coatings now, interesting stuff. The steel plant had some cool equipment, 45 MMBtu/hr furnaces, 56,000 ton closed die forging press, fork trucks that could pick up 15 tons, 100 ton high bay cranes, 1 million+ enclosed space with 80-100ft ceilings, deepest construction foundation in north america, most powerful piece of manufacturing equipment in the western hemisphere.
Sak…he’s as much an engineer as I am a financial analyst…seems piping designer by the looks of it. Just like what you do, analysis, research, and learning pays off and is respected…not preconceived outcomes like “I just KNOW it’s gonna be 25% better - just look at it”.
Although with that handle, now I’m curious if he is even financially educated.
Lol that’s some hot industrial dirty talk right there…I’m getting a woodrow. Sounds ridiculously massive. The only interesting things about working here in pharma is the occasionally ridiculous cost for pound of product (some over seven figures), and the sheer amount of MTBE, toluene, methanol, and ethanol I have access to.
I moved all the engineer catfight stuff from the B8 Stage 1+/2- thread over here.
that’s crazy
Been off this board for a bit. and now I’m responding to an old comment XD
I actually recommended Beard over here as we were chatting on AZ. He’s a technical dude genuinely interested in improving what he can on this platform. Joining a group of like minds would spur some interesting discussion. FWIW he does have a B8, though I suspect all of these things have already been addressed.
I’m going to sit back on this one 'cause I don’t have much to add on the topic of intercooling.
Yeah stick to driving and alignment 
Now that we lost west we need an expert in that
Hey you are ever near TMP to go lapping? or maybe to the last Apex driving day on Oct 15th at CTMP?