Ok. So in theory if I test them out , I have about 15-20,000 kms on my current coils (the new ones from the recall), only a few thousand kms on my spark plugs. Is this a good base for testing?
as long as you test used (15-20,000 kms old) Okada coilpacks with your same plugs, sure. I mean, if you want to be scientific about it.
please ensure you go to a dyno that has nothing to do with these guys selling the coils though. Blitzkreig and Podi appear ‘friendly’. I’m sure there’s another dyno out there not connected to Podi.
Also take note that nobody in the thread on AZ asked how old/what version the original coilpacks were on the stock pull. It appears to be a non-s-line B7, so it could be a 2006 rocking 7 year old coilpacks with 110,000 miles on them. We have no idea. Again, I’m not saying this is bogus etc. but I’m just saying that $700 for 4 coilpacks to achieve an advertised 10 hp seems pretty crazy…especially when the method of testing that begat that 10 whp gain appears to be pretty flawed.
Even if you just have a quick look at the 2 dynos on stock coilpacks, the car got quite a bit stronger from pull 1 to pull 2 at various points in the curve. Does this exhibit adaptation? Does it highlight the fact that margin of error on a dyno like this is 3-5 whp? Anyone else think it’s weird that they chose the WORSE of the two stock pulls to compare to the one modified pull? Why not do 3 of each, then average out the 3 pulls in each state to come up with a number/curve? I believe that’s what APR does when they advertise a dyno sheet.
Blitzkrieg and winston @ podi are “friendly” but I can’t see blitz posting a biased dyno.
A better test would be current coils, a set of fresh oem coils, and the okadas. I know on big turbo custom tuned setups, swapping in okadas has yielded pretty big gains, around 40whp IIRC.
Actually, the best test would be going to the drag strip, running oem coils, then running okadas 
^^^see, that’s far more relevant to me (brand new OEM vs. oldass OEM vs. Okada). This will show you the true delta from not only considering Okada, but also (and far more valuable and cost effective) the gains from updating your coilpacks to new ones, especially the latest update (for people like imnuts who don’t seem to see the merit in replacing something till it fails).
A 5 whp part (avg of 2 stock runs vs. Okada run minus dyno margin of error) isn’t really going to show up at the strip unfortunately. Tough to identify the delta there.
Wow, I was just making a point, and you seem hell bent on saying these will never work. What do you have against them? Are you making a competing product? I would very well run my coils until they died.
I had them replaced twice now, once before the recall, and the recall, and neither time did I notice any change in how the car ran. I noticed a bigger difference getting the spark plugs changed along with my service at 120k miles than I did when the coils were changed out. To the same affect, I had the transmission and diff fluids replaced with my most recent service, and it made the car run noticeably smoother as well, but again, no difference in the two times I got the coils changed.
I never said they won’t fail eventually, but you’re making sound like people are going to be shelling out money for new coils yearly, or every other year. Maybe you’re using your car different than I am, but I see no reason coil packs can’t be used until they fail, or you notice slightly misses or hesitation.
As for the rest of your hate you’re spewing, what is wrong with a 10k mile OCI? I drive 80-90% highway, there is no reason to be changing it more frequently IMO. If I were to do a 5k mile OCI, I’d be getting my oil changed almost every other month. At close to $70-80 just for the oil, filter, and plug, I’d be spending probably $1500 a year just on oil changes.
Since you’re being such a stickler for changing stuff out ahead of time, how often do you change your coils out? I’d love to know how often you have replaced yours since you seem to know everything there is about how often everything should be replaced.
Lolol it’s all good, saki is just a ball buster. If it turns out they are solid I’m sure he will side with the upgrade.
Edit: I’ll buy some sakimano coilpacks if you’re making them. I expect 2/10ths quarter mile improvement though.
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note to self: don’t buy imnuts’ car.
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Note to self: Stop coming to Audi Revolution since it’s also full of d-bags. Everyone complains about this shit on Audizine, but you come here and do the same thing.
Note to self: forget my sense of humor at the log in screen.
I’m not one to get all into e wars, but I feel like everyone gets way to puffy chested, way too quick. If I wanna hear/see bickering, I’ll just head down to the local “bro” bars.
Sigh.
/end opinion
Carry on gents.
x2 Well said dude
his username is perfect
Most of the people who favour 10,000 mile oil changes, never changing coil packs and changing fuel filters every 7 years are guys who think ‘if Audi says it, it must be true’ and/or cheapskates. Most of the folks on these forums know that these cars are much better off with a shorter oil interval than 10,000 miles. While Audi sets an oil change interval that coincides with basically a once a year service (and set that interval when Audicare was standard on these cars, thus they knew they’d be paying for all the services while the car was under warranty), user experience (a.k.a. thousands of b5/6/7 owners) have shown that 5,000 or so is more appropriate, especially if you’re performance focused and are pushing the car far harder than the typical mom (and sadly, that’s who the majority of these 8E platform cars were sold to).
We’ve also learned that the supposedly lifetime coilpacks start to get weak as they get older and can cause performance inhibition.
We’ve also learned that replacing your fuel filter and spark plugs before 55,000 miles (55k is the audi ‘recommendation’, which conveniently falls outside of the Audicare period) is adviseable, as these parts can hold the car back a little as you get up past 30,000 miles.
So if Joe is a d-bag for knowing all of this, and not wanting to buy your car because you ignore the input of hundreds of members on various Audi forums…well I guess lots of us are dbags then.
To make your testing valid we might want to test 10-20 cars using the OLD OEM/NEW OEM/Okada test.
Also all OEM type coilpacks are not created equal. (Quality assurance)
With our ECU and other modules being adaptive to this change we would get a better idea of whether
or not it is worth it?
Just a thought…
very true but not likely to happen
if these were such a no brainer more people than the guy selling them (winston) and mickf29 would be buying them and being excited about them.
I think the simple fact is that its a ton of money for a modest gain…thus it will be talked about lots but not put into practice by too many people.