RS4per...what the hell is he talking about?

B6/7 S4/RS4
#1

In the APR 1740 thread in the RS4 section of Audizine, this happened yesterday:

[QUOTE=Justincredible]Exactly. Its hard to pass up Anything APR. When they have the biggest hp with the best choice in Roots style blowers you know its going to be good. Add to that the 3 or 4 years now APR has had a great run with the 1320 blowers. Its some of the best experience in the market. Top choise when it comes to this kind of blower choice. Best tuning best blower best hp APR nothing new.

Arin any idea on when we we will know the price and release date.
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[QUOTE=S4Per]Lol, just lol.
Taking NOTHING away from APR. Just lol @ your true motivations behind this post…pretty transparent, JHMuncredible.
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Wait…so he is complaining about Justin, and making JHM cracks after Justin paid a huge compliment to APR??? Where does he get the JHM spin? Where does he think there are ‘true motivations’. Justin complimented APR, who have had a solid kit in the 1320…and are taking a big step to a custom sized blower that will apparently be perfect for the 4.2 RS4/RS5/R8.

So Justin responds…

[quote=Justincredible]So sad. Sorry APR and the members excited for APR don’t suite your motives.

Unlike some my motives are quite clear. A great product The great results a Great advertiser and supporter if this community. In your post You seem so jaded at the success of JHM that paying a compliment to APR is making for a JHM post.

I think we all can see whats transparent here your post makes that clear. Maybe you missed this is an APR thread and I paid APR a compliment. Sooooo sorry I can’t pay APR a compliment in The APR thread without hurting your feelings. Maybe sell your unit and get the APR unit.

I’m sorry that the success of APR and JHM have made it hard for you to handle anyone talking great about there products. I like how I didn’t say anything about JHM but you still had to stretch to link that in there. so sad.
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[quote=S4Per]The lack of conviction in your stated beliefs is what we’re talking about here…don’t think for a second it’s anything else. The 85% of the community who has been around knows exactly what I’m talking about. No need to kid, put up this façade, and thereby insult, any of them.

I’ll start another thread and clean this one up once I have it going. I’ll ask you to edit yours also after the fact (just the one after my response) so that we keep this one clean.
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WTF is he talking about? He is lost at sea. Does he want Justincredible to rave about the AMVIVA kit that STILL hasn’t been officially launched anywhere? Is that why he is mad, because nobody gives a fuck about AMVIVA anymore? I am really confused. Had Justin actually mentioned JHM…or AMVIVA I would understand…but where is this guy flying off the handle from???

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/sakimano/Screenshot_2013-09-02-00-19-07_zps7910fb11.png

Then we get the classic. “OK I’m going to rant and then run away”. Just like he did before on AZ. Just like he did here on AR when he was taken to task for inconsistencies.

He’s talking about how guys aren’t demanding 1/4 mile times. Umm…has he not seen the discussions here on AR where justin and all of us have asked Arin about a schedule for hitting the strip? That thread is an intro/teaser thread for their 1740 kit. They haven’t fucking launched it yet. Suddenly we are hypocritical here and on AZ for not demanding 1/4 mile times? IF that thread said ‘GIVE US $15,000 and you can have our kit’ he would have a case. In reality? It’s early development and we’ve been shown a preliminary dyno that was excellent.

Last time I checked, when AMVIVA was developing their kit, jonathan cohen came on here, asked us questions, showed some stuff, and asked what we would want to see to launch the kit. We told him straight up, performance testing. Specifically an NHRA sanctioned 1/4 mile slip and various pbox data. Nobody said ‘you suck because you haven’t showed us quarter mile times’. They were still testing the kit (and arguably still are…it has been running on 93 octane for all of 2 weeks lol).

Want to know THE REAL REASON the RS4 dyno video was released???

The other half of AMVIVA, the back end of the horse, jason, decided that he would trash talk APR whenever possible. He questioned APR’s claim that they’re making 500 whp on the RS4. His claim was that APR took the R8 4.2 dyno result with the 1740 and assumed they’d make the same on the RS4. (Nevermind that they’re both rocking the same engine and in all likelihood the blower is going to be the restriction…that’s another story that shows how clueless Jason is). But to respond to that, Arin posted the dyno video showing/proving they achieved 500 whp on the RS4, not the R8.

Anyway, pretty pathetic guerilla marketing by AMVIVA. Jon Cohen needs some new partners. He’s even jumping into that thread looking alot like crazy angry Jason.

#2

I think it will be interesting to see APR take down AMDs time in the fall…I also think after that it will be time for some blown motors if a certain company begins pushing limits they don’t understand.

But at the same time I’m waiting on that atomic bomb to be dropped

#3

I wish the bomb would be dropped, to push the one man show to do something stupid.

#4

lets not forget that Per is a AMD pin up boy… AMD had his car for 6 months… put the blower on… the blower messed up Per’s car and then he had to have AMD pull the motors again…

Per is a paid spoaksman for AMD.

This is classic AMD running scared… you can’t pay APR a compliment in a APR thread…I saw the thread before it got removed… Its AMD and Per scared of APR… Lets not forget AMD went and attacked APR for the selection of the 1740. Now APR has shown what its been talking about all along and thats AMD is a joke and is just trying to put the biggest blower in without knowing what is really goin gon.

#5

what will be really interesting is to see what happens with the AMD 1900 kit cooling vs. the APR 1740 kit cooling

One of the big sacrifices AMD made in fitting the 1900 was the cooling. One of the reasons APR avoided the 1900 was the sacrifice you’d need to make in cooling.

It should also be said that APR chose the 1740 likely to be a good go-between sized blower that would work well with their 4.2 RS projects, but would also fit their 3.0T S car projects. A 1900 would be massively oversized for the little V6. A 1740 is a nice size for both, best for the 4.2 but not absurdly large for the 3.0T.

#6

Very telling… Very telling indeed.

The most clear stance here is AMD customers seem to have paranoia and delusional fits. It seems to me the two or three AMD customers including all the B5 and RS4 guys. Don’t seem to have strong amental stability.

I’d be willing to say S4Per is truly the dishonest one here. Casting his projection of himself onto Justin. S4Per’s inconsistencies here have shown he himself to be the one with non genuine motives.

#7

I think what this guy is missing is this:

We scrutinized PES and VF because their m90 blowers were shown to be complete failures. Not even a base for an upgrade of the same type of blower. The difference is at least APR had a decent BASE product to work with. it was proven and enhanced with the re-tune.

PES and VF decided to enhance their charger even though they had no base to work with! That is where the skepticism came into play in the past. They had not proven anything and gave us no substantial reason or proof that the m112 was any better. Here with APR at least they have proven themselves in the past and the dyno can at least have some sort of validation compared to the m90/112 chargers (though as we know the 1/4 mile is the final say on the product).

In any case we can then look at a company’s reputation. APR has an outstanding long-term reputation…I believe that is for a good reason. JHM does as well though perhaps not as long. Really both of these companies are the leading success stories of this platform with proof in the past.

#8

good summary

what per is saying is instead that everyone is giving APR a free pass for posting a dyno and getting praise. Reality is that they’re posting the dyno to say fuck you to people who accused them of lying about 500 whp, and to tease the progress on the new kit.

nobody is buying the APR kit because of the dyno, or recommending it. We’re all just saying that it looks great and when we see performance data that supports the dyno, APR will have a real winner (and AMviva will have a real problem on their hands).

That’s the bottom line. The two companies who are getting it done in the 4.2 space are pissing all over AMviva’s parade. First JHM crushed the AMviva 1/4 time and now APR is launching a more suitably sized roots TVSr blower for the 4.2 and is making the same WHP that AMD claimed to make. More irony there:AMD claimed 500 whp with their bazillion PSI kit…but never actually showed the dyno results. Then they have the balls to attempt (and fail) at calling out APR lol.

#9

in other news…quattrofail’s B7 RS4 section is a total ghost town. Without mick lying and making up stories about JHM (and JHM coming in to own the shit out of him) the place is completely devoid of any content.

#10

Good. That site is pure comedy, not a drop of real, factual-based conversation over there.