RS6 engine in the old S6

Exactly. But the good ones if there is such a thing is hard to find.

Oh Scott. Deer whistles FTW

Lol Comparatively speaking yes even awd g35x’s are a dime a dozen. Considering that there maybe a couple dozen or so 07-11 s6’s available for purchase under 20k in like you know America.

Is the R8 V10 exactly the same as the RS6 V10?

No, not even close. One is a 5.2 and one is a 5.0.

5.2L would be the S6?

lol there’s no S6 in that question

RS6 and R8

RS6 5.0 twin turbo V10
R8 5.2 naturally aspirated V10

GRS6, welcome to AudiRevolution!

I know you are looking to purchase an S6, so I’m going to assign you some Required Reading :slight_smile:

First, the S6 v10 Info Dump. Everything you ever need to know should be in that thread

http://audirevolution.net/forum/index.php?topic=2614.0

On AZ you were asking about the S6 to RS6 drivetrain conversion, and I told you its not something that makes financial sense. Once you get your S6, if you want more power, then you should follow an established path. Check out my build thread for more details.

http://audirevolution.net/forum/index.php?topic=3145.0

If you exhaust all the NA mods, and you still want more, then you could look into a custom supercharger. But, at that point, youll already have tens of thousands of dollars into the car. So, start with getting the car.

I didn’t realize the S6 and R8 had the same (or similar) engines. I figured R8 Spyders would have a V10 TT. Wow, that’s interesting. Is RS6 the biggest engine sized car they’ve developed besides the R8 Le Mans?

The largest Audi engine is the 6.0 v12 available in the Q7 and A8.

As I suggested earlier, read the threads that I posted. It will get you caught up to speed with the level of knowledge that everyone else is at around here.

I read up on the S6 and its mysterious V10 engine on your thread, which is a masterpiece in itself. I appreciate all of the information you and your guys have gathered together! It’s amazing to see so much information that other sources lacked and all in one place. And if I’m investing 10s of thousands of dollars on modifications, then I’d like to AT LEAST consider creating a RS6 given it’s legal.

It seems that you don’t know what comprises a 4F RS6. You will never be able to create one from an S6. The RS6 is completely different. Body panels, structure, interior, electronics, brakes, engine, turbos, cooling, transmission, wheels, suspension, lights, differential, exhaust, etc. etc. etc. And none of it is available in North America.

The only way you could get an RS6 in North America is to find some way to import one. If you know any Diplomats, then call them up and see if they can help.

If you want twin turbo power in that size car, the go with a C7 S6 or RS7. Or, if you want a v10, then go all out with the S6.

There we go! And everything is different based on functionality OR a pure RS6?

I’m not sure what you’re asking.

Well, you could easily leave the interior as S6 and be RS6 under the hood. It wouldn’t be an authentic RS6, but it would run like one.

Like I said previously, it doesnt make financial sense. Doing an RS6 drivetrain swap could easily run you $30-50k. And you could spend the money and end up with a car that doesnt even run properly, and is worth nothing. Even if it did work, now you have a Frankencar that is lucky to keep up with a tuned C7 S6. And you paid WAY more, and can’t sell the damn thing.

$10k USD of mods plus labor into a stock v10 S6 will get you approaching RS6 HP levels, following a, soon to be, established path. As I said, start with buying the car. Then get the bolt-ons. And if you want more power, then it goes as far as your bank account will allow. The guys at UGR dont use RS6 engines for their 2000HP v10s. They build the stock Audi/Lambo blocks. Do your research and then copy the guys who know what they’re doing.

Yes, feasibly that is a possibility. One I haven’t completely rulled out yet. As far As compatibility. A few concerns the Intercoolers placement attachment to the vehicle. Security protocol in the ecu’s units Will need to be efited. The engine harness plugging directly to the body. I have done a couple swaps it took some repinning and code editing for the ecu or ecu’s the Rs6 uses 2. the transmissions have slightly different gear ratios I believe also.

Needless to say you would have to have a completely custom tune. Especially if you keep the s6 transmission

Yes, it would be far less work cost if you followed in someone else’s footsteps. Plus the more we have interested in the 5.2 na the cheaper it will become for all.

the insanity of the RS6 (C6) is quite appealing, as a twin turbo V10 just sounds like someone went crazy when they approved that.

However it wasn’t all that great. The car was sluggish from 0-100. In fact a bone stock C7 S6 4.0T would easily match one in a race from a dig to 400m or anything under 100 mph. The RS6 would do nicely at high speeds, but last time I checked, they take your car away for going high speeds over here. It’s really an autobahn assassin, but not so great here other than having that V10T to talk about at cocktail parties.

For me, it would be simple. Buy C7 S6. Invest a couple grand in a tune. Kick the shit out of every stock C6 RS6 on earth. Even most of the poorly modded ones. Many of those Russian video ‘700’ ‘800’ ‘900’ hp C6 RS6s you see are just flat disappointing and sluggish.

Buying a C6 S6 for $15,000 with a bad engine…buying a C6 RS6 engine and trans…and other items…bringing them over here…taking 2 years to make it run…finally making it run only to realise the car is just a bit disappointing under 100 mph would be a nightmare. On top of this, you’d be EASILY up to $40,000 maybe $50,000, and when you try to sell it, you might get $20,000. So your net cost will be $20,000 to $30,000 for 4 years, 2 of which you didn’t even drive the car.

I’d rather spend $60,000 on a used C6 S6 4.0T, tune it, drive it, love it, and sell it for $30,000 4 years hence, and be in the exact same financial position, net net. And with way less headaches and (ultimately) a faster car.

Very true. As a community everyone working together to drive the market in a proven direction is better then everyone going in a different direction. The v10 market is small but united you stand decided you fall short of performance for real