Definitely not a DIY type built motor. I don’t think $10k completely built is unrealistic including everything. $3500 for built heads isnt bad so $6500 for a built block. I’m assuming the motor build would be block and heads. If its 10k for just a built block that is pricey, but I also understand the R&D and the small market and custom parts.
I would say a built S4 engine would be closer to 15K. Heads are probably 4K with bigger valves + porting, bottom end is probably around 7K, and then better timing parts would be another 4K. Just guessing at this point but that is where I would start.
Yes to both. JHM has a lightweight flywheel, clutch kit, and headers for the S5s though.
I can say that from my info from a pretty credible source your far off. I think that was one of the beginning rumors or possibly the beginning costs because it was all in a development stage. I have heard that the price has been cut down significantly and has become pretty reasonable considering what your getting. Think about the cost of a brand new 4.2BHF, now if I could get a built 4.2 that could handle 600whp plus for the same price I would consider that a win. So IMHO if you could get a built motor for less than a stock motor I would still consider that a pretty good deal.
Now that JHM released their built heads I have a feeling the built motor program is very close to being announced. TO be honest I’m very interested.
I don’t really understand some of the guys that think they will get a built motor for a B6/B7 S4 for $5000…you can barely build any V8 “right” for $5000. The guys that think the supercharger kit should be $5000 too blow my mind.
I thought my source was pretty much as good as you can get. I was told that the price is so high because the block cannot be refurbished, so the price includes a NEW block, which made sense to me at the time. But as mentioned, maybe that’s old information.
Yeah I think its old information. $10,000 is certainly a good ‘floor’ to think of at the least…more if you want everything dove. All guesses though, but I have met with Jason and talked at length about it and the number reached or eclipsed twenty thousand only when you include a couple of turbos in the mix.
Their built motor testing has been going on for a while and they are installing the first built motor on the JHM black B6 S4 with baby seat here this month. Next built motor looks like it will go to that Avant that jpo was referring to.
A while ago when I bugged Dru one day he told me that they had a S5 with their flywheel and clutch kit plus headers sitting outside. They will probably be willing to share more info if you call but there are a lot of things that they are testing before releasing it. That is the way it should be done in my opinion.
A while ago when I bugged Dru one day he told me that they had a S5 with their flywheel and clutch kit plus headers sitting outside. They will probably be willing to share more info if you call but there are a lot of things that they are testing before releasing it. That is the way it should be done in my opinion.
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A good set of headers would be a BIG gain in hp for me right now!
I do know about the LWFW and clutch but those are MUCH more expensive than the RS4 set up and they are still in the beta test ???
Probably my next upgrade is going to be a BBK, these brakes are not safe