What would you do? Built B6 S4 vs RS4

[G-Rat]

I thought my source was pretty much as good as you can get. I was told that the price is so high because the block cannot be refurbished, so the price includes a NEW block, which made sense to me at the time. But as mentioned, maybe that’s old information.

[bigserve134]

I would say a built S4 engine would be closer to 15K. Heads are probably 4K with bigger valves + porting, bottom end is probably around 7K, and then better timing parts would be another 4K. Just guessing at this point but that is where I would start.

Of course if you don’t need 4 doors, I’ve seen some 4.2 S5s for $40k… another 4.2 FSI option. And good looking too.

Do those manual 4.2 S5s have the same shitty B8 clutch as the 3.0t or the solid example peddled in the B7 RS4

Yes to both. JHM has a lightweight flywheel, clutch kit, and headers for the S5s though.

What, really???! I remember seeing them in development but never completed

[JPO]

Apparently there is a local guy who has his B7 S4 Avant out for a built motor with JHM.

[sakimano]

I thought my source was pretty much as good as you can get. I was told that the price is so high because the block cannot be refurbished, so the price includes a NEW block, which made sense to me at the time. But as mentioned, maybe that’s old information.

Yeah I think its old information. $10,000 is certainly a good ‘floor’ to think of at the least…more if you want everything dove. All guesses though, but I have met with Jason and talked at length about it and the number reached or eclipsed twenty thousand only when you include a couple of turbos in the mix.

Their built motor testing has been going on for a while and they are installing the first built motor on the JHM black B6 S4 with baby seat here this month. Next built motor looks like it will go to that Avant that jpo was referring to.

[JimmyBones]

I would say a built S4 engine would be closer to 15K. Heads are probably 4K with bigger valves + porting, bottom end is probably around 7K, and then better timing parts would be another 4K. Just guessing at this point but that is where I would start.

Of course if you don’t need 4 doors, I’ve seen some 4.2 S5s for $40k… another 4.2 FSI option. And good looking too.

Do those manual 4.2 S5s have the same shitty B8 clutch as the 3.0t or the solid example peddled in the B7 RS4

Yes to both. JHM has a lightweight flywheel, clutch kit, and headers for the S5s though.

What, really???! I remember seeing them in development but never completed

A while ago when I bugged Dru one day he told me that they had a S5 with their flywheel and clutch kit plus headers sitting outside. They will probably be willing to share more info if you call but there are a lot of things that they are testing before releasing it. That is the way it should be done in my opinion.

[bigserve134]

A while ago when I bugged Dru one day he told me that they had a S5 with their flywheel and clutch kit plus headers sitting outside. They will probably be willing to share more info if you call but there are a lot of things that they are testing before releasing it. That is the way it should be done in my opinion.
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A good set of headers would be a BIG gain in hp for me right now!

I do know about the LWFW and clutch but those are MUCH more expensive than the RS4 set up and they are still in the beta test ???

Probably my next upgrade is going to be a BBK, these brakes are not safe