034 has a new dyno...and it's a heartbreaker

^ It just keeps getting better! ::slight_smile:

Another data point from the new 034 Mustang Dynamometer

B7 Rs4
APR tune
AWE exhaust

327 whp was the highest it dyno’d.

Here’s a (useless) video

http://vimeo.com/86400165

useless X10

…and that stance was good for 10whp

Our dyno had nearly identical results.

What would stock be on your guys dyno…

Stock averaged around 317 AWHP.

Damn, I should be running 11’s cause that heartbreaker dyno dynoed my car at 406 whp :wink: i need Jason to drive my car again…lol

Should be good for a high 11 @ 118+ if you dyno’d 406 whp in a B5 on their new mustang.

My best was 12.1 @122 :’(

Weird that the numbers are so different. Dynomite(L&S) and Mustang dynos are almost the same thing, with the Dynomite essentially being a more precise, high end version with more applied variables. Both are eddy current type.

Unless there was something wrong with it, their old dyno was more accurate assuming it was set up properly.

They’re not dramatically different. 8 percent or so.

Delta is all that matters on a dyno anyway, and the absolute numbers are entirely irrelevant vs other dynos.

Something else interesting about that dyno at 034…these results gather over the past 2 weeks on the 034 mustang dyno.

BenST-Lie - 325 WHP
APR tune
EBwerks catless 2.75" downpipes+EBwerks catback exhaust

meem - 327 WHP
APR tune
AWE catback exhaust (stock downpipes and cats)

So, EBwerks 2.75" catless downpipes and 2.75" catback exhaust vs stock diameter AWE catback…and the ebwerks fullback added a loss of 2 WHP??

Funny, Ben hasn’t addressed that little discrepancy lol.

[quote=meem on quattroworld]speaking of videos – and proof that i will get my rs4 dirty for a good cause: i had it baselined on 034’s mustang dyno this wet morning.

it fared better than i expected (327 whp) and we probably should’ve let it adapt more, as it got stronger with each of the three runs (just apr chip and awe exhaust).
as a datapoint, an rs4 with jhm’s supercharger recorded 390whp on that dyno last month.
it will be interesting to see the tvs1740 supercharger numbers soon :slight_smile:
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The other tidbit that keeps popping up is that a JHM supercharger kit dyno’d at “only 390whp” but what no one seems to understand is that a.) it is a stage 1 kit and b.) the whole point of stage 1 is to get ready for stage 2. So, yeah sure it will be interesting to see the APR kit’s numbers on that dyno but even more so the JHM stage 2 kit’s numbers. Then we will be comparing apples to apples and still at a substantial cost and more importantly in mind boost difference.

yeah, I was surprised by that…do they really not realise that JHM has 2 stages for their supercharger kit?

Can’t be…can it? These people are so into JHM and following every move they (and their customers) make…you’d think they’d know the product lineup lol.

I’d say that’s reasonable. Run to run will have variances, especially if we’re talking in the neighborhood of only 2 AWHP and only two data points, that being the peak power figure and not an entire dyno curve. On these big V8 engines, even differences in oil temp will play into a few HP here and there. Id look at the whole curve. It will be far more beneficial.

We tend to see a full catless exhaust produce pretty significant peak delta over one with stock downpipes and just a catback.

Arin, any thoughts on why BenST-Lie’s car dyno’d 3 WHP less when they added the APR tune? 034 said ‘it needs to adapt’ but I thought I remembered you saying on here somewhere that adaptation talk is a bit over-rated and the cars adapt right away. Maybe that was on the B8 not the B7.

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I’ve seen gains in low end torque. Top end and peak power, not so much.

It should be easy to point out if the vehicle was logged.

really? how about this example

stock everything 327 whp
add jhm tune/full exhaust 365 whp
same fuel, same conditions

+38 peak whp

I guesss you’re saying that gain of peak whp is just from the JHM tune? And if we were to take the JHM exhaust off his car, and put the stock exhaust with all cats in the downpipes back on, he would lose a little of the fatness in the curve, but make the same peak WHP?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCsKy7stfhs‎

Where’s the stock run?

Also, you shouldn’t use STD correction. Even Dynojet states this. It’s an old standard that will always produce higher results.

That doesn’t make any sense or follow any of the dynos that others have done.