034 Single Turbo 1/4 mile Video & Excuses

Just another example on whats clearly wrong with the B5 S4 community. Others get bashed for achieving miles more then this while weighing 3-400lbs more but this run gets praised ???

Basically it seems half the engine bay needs to be relocated, cost more money to achieve overall less performance then PJK04s. I would of never made the above statement if this statement wasn’t made sorry “Potentially more overall effcient than twins” but has half the TQ/power curve of K04 turbos ???

I believe the 60ft was 1.75 which is awesome, doesn’t get much better but claims are that the car rolled out/not driven hard, video shows all out run. I believe 1.75 60ft was better than the jhm run where they went 10.8.

Car has been under tuning all summer, racing seats & whatever else as the video shows, 110 Octane & every excuse one can possible have to why we ran 12ss all day but managed one 11.85 pass @ 118mph. Don’t no how bald tires & bad 3/4 syncros are gonna add much mph. I wouldn’t call this a base file, I’m sure the car was being tuned/prepped between each run & if the car was so crippled why 15 runs

Here’s the post from AZ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LvI7IFVMZfs

Car ran an 11.85 @ 118.4mph.

This was the first time this car has ever set foot on the drag strip, and our goal was basic testing, shakedown, and a general starting point. This is my daily driver with 150k miles on the car and transmission (bad 1/2 and 3/4 collars), and we didn’t want to break anything yet. After 15 back to back runs over the course of a couple hours with only one cool down session, and air temps of 95-100 degrees, there wasn’t a single hiccup or issue. We only started to launch the car towards the later part of the session, and we are happy with the overall performance with all things considered.

21psi on the 6262 turbo, .64 AR turbine housing, Journal Bearing CHRA, 91oct tune with 110oct race gas in the tank. Worn street tires, sticky transmission, and not a single adjustment made to tire pressure or suspension settings or anything. The car also has a stock center diff for those who asked me via PM.

As a basic starting point for future times, 11.8 is good in our books and we know that will show people we are both serious about testing, and give a peak at the potential performance once we get things dialed.

Since the test car is my daily driver and something I drive to and from work everyday, we felt this was also a great illustration of something that a lot of people could easily do right off the street with our kit, and without any big worry of breaking anything. The next time we head out, we will be testing and comparing more boost, a 110oct tune, more aggressive launches, a ball bearing center section, and maybe even a rebuilt transmission (this would knock a half second right there!). The ball bearing CHRA should help considerably with recovery time between shifts!
A fully maximized setup, even with the log manifolds, will be extremely competitive with a similar twin turbo setup, with the potential to surpass both the power and efficiency of a twin turbo. ??? Absolute factless B.S Statement

Here’s the 1/4 mile list of twin turbo cars with most on stock motor… http://audirevolution.net/quartermile/

did that guy say with the ability to be better then twiuns… hahaaha what a lie. not only is this not true with the 550whp 034 car only managed to go 12s 1/2 there excuses were that if the turbo was to be ball berring it wouldn’t fall off duribng shifts.

034 is one failed sales pitch and failed performance after another. lets have some honest juce. 034 doged the track because they knew it was a 550 12 sec car and no one would want that.

this simgle turbo has faield just about every time this has been attempted. I do have to give creit to snowtrooper he got 11.4 on his shakedown pass. But look up KTR S4 single turbo. same thing and same excueses as 034. 550whp and a 12sec !/4 mile.

looks likle the 034 car is not exacty full weight. The KTR car never got real sucuess. They had to cut the car up and gutt it to pieces to get it to even run in the mid 11.s

I guess we can see why 034 doged the track so much.

I think both of you guys over react to this testing and product.
-Company starts teaser thread to generate interest.
-compnay has working product with a dyno chart.
-company then runs the car at the track.
They don’t apear to be hitting Big power yet, though the turbo can make it.

-company runs high 11’s to mid 12’s on 91 file with race gas on WG PRESSURE.

All u can do is talk shit?
Go read a book or something.
What have either of you done that is any better than what 034 has brought to the table?
Don’t say k04’s that went mid 11.x either, because we all know they can on a well sorted car. We are not looking at anything well sorted yet, it is shakedown.

Do I think this kit is the best thing since sliced bread? No. I think it is a bit incomplete and underplanned,
but it is a cool alternative to k04’s or rs6’s but under 10k for the whole shebang.

WHO are you?

This is a bad showing for 034. I don’t think anyone is thinking otherwise that is using a little common sense. Im a fan of 034 and the other guys as well but this is just plain bad. If you think as a company 034 should develop sell and then test well thats your issue.

shakedown. Ok 117 is a bad shake down for any kit that claims to have 500whp. 91 tune but on 110 fuel. That should have been a much better run. You’re selling this 11.8 like it was the average run. 11.8 was the best run at the end of the night. when you can consider you can get ko4s for 1200$ this isn’t a good alternative to that at all.

Sorry I like 034 but this isn’t a good showing.

I need to start shopping elsewhere if you guys are buying K04’s for $1200

I think that for a kit that is putting down 425-475ish (which this one is on 91 file and 21psi) this is a good shakedown showing

I am in no way a bandwagon jumper, but I do agree that perhaps you should back off a bit, even Saki chilled out and gave them a pass on this one

ko4s 750$
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RS4-KO4-UPGRADE-TURBO-CHARGER-00-01-02-AUDI-S4-2-7L-B5-/300627101881?hash=item45fec588b9&item=300627101881&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr

giving someone a pass on a 500whp car with 110 fuel with weight reductions and clearly a all out run in the 1/4 mile where they were not seeing if the kit worked or not. They had 15 passes and only 1 got them an 11sec pass. This is a car with 500whp??? sure… Weight reduction and race gas… ok its a fucken turd.

Think about this. this isn’t even a good ko4 time. 034 made a 20 point list as to why they wouldn’t go to the trtack and after seeing the results you can see why. Its not anywhere near as good a twins amnd this pass shows that. this potential fire hazard shouldt get a pass for any reason. If these companys would starat learning how to actually market a product then fine. if people now think that a 400whp ko4 car can eaisely go low 12s then a 500whp car shouldbe much better. If its the TIAL turbos or this disastar of a kit this is just sad.

a 500whp car with race seats 110 fuel 15 chances later and your still only in the low 12s…come on man. lets be honest this was weak. Im not saying that they can’t TIAL turbo 35lbs of boost this and do well. This isn’t a shake down pass this is a fail.

TO help you out. Ive worked at W2W a GM test bed for over 10years. Ive HAND BUILT several LT1 and LS1 turbo kits. 9lbs of boost on a shake down pass on 89 oct fuel we got 11.4@128

project colbolt. Turbo kit. First pass low boost 11.8@121 6 passes later 11.2@10.95

A shake down pass is something you do when you just get something workoing and you want to make sure it works. Its not something you do after you have a press realease on something your already selling to the public. FUCK man where is anyones common selse. We already saw this with the tial turbo and VF supercharger PES supercharger thing. Wehre a company makes a product and waits till 40 of them are sold before they even see if tis works.

the book I WROTE… was how to tune LT1motors… tune… not go on some web site and reverse engener how to steal and make changes to a tune already there… So listen son, Before you talk aout your ass you might want to get out of the bastemtnt ahtat you call Jfonz tuning anre realize there are people out ther ea fuck of a lot smarter then you. you want to have rose coloerd classes on this then fine.

as ususal fashion I spelling plently of stuff wonng to make sure I look like a babbling fool. Ive had Audi cars for the past 15years. This isn’t the first thime this has happened. only after strong resistance from people did 034 goto the track. This is weeks after they had this kit out and ready for sale. This would have been accaptable months before they even talked about selling a kit not several weeks after they sold the first one. come on man wake up.

Don’t be an asshole, that isn’t apples to apples.

Here is a GT45 for under $250
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-GT45-TURBO-TURBOCHARGER-COMPRESSOR-V-BAND-1000-HP-CAPABLE-UPGRADE-T4-BIG-/110896613896?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19d1f40a08&vxp=mtr

ok then I too am a asswhole. Those are ko4 turbos and that is less then 1400. china or not

Still I think these guys have it right. I had the same questions concerns.

034 seems to think we are all stupid.

how deep do the lies stack up.

  1. Are we to believe that 034 went to the track only to no do well… come on. You don’t go to the track with 110 and expect to do poorly. They clearly had race gas and were expecting race times.

  2. They said 21 pounds of boost on the net and then 20 pounds of boost in the video. what did they really run.

3 They said it was 100deg out. Yet when they ran the 11.8 it was night time and it was 70deg

4 This everyday driven car has clear weight reductions. As seen in the LightWeight Raceing seats

5 They claimed bad transmission. Yet you can hear they are clearly working the car all the way down the track.

  1. They claimed this was a alternative to twins. As there add campaign. This isn’t true even if they did well.

I agree with the other guys that a shake down pass is something you do BEFORE you sell your product to people. I don’t by the “we were not really trying hard.”

I also agree with the notion that the Tial turbos has come under fire for under performing. This should be no different in my opinion. For 034 to say we went to the track and just wanted to see if it worked is not only scary for the people who thought it worked but sad that they did this poorly in there shake down pass.

I agree. This is a 12 second car.

I’m wondering how this isn’t ko4’s for less then 1400$ This isn’t the only ko4 kit that can be had for less then 1400$

The detractors here are not just plain haters. Seems a section of people are holding true to the same standards they put other people and other company’s to.

It’s great as a option. I just don’t think it’s a great as there billing it up to be. Then to go and show the car in action after all the hype and criticism only to run low 12’s. Seems like just a hard pill to swallow.

The inferred alternative to the STK would be a standard BW RS4 K04 twin setup. Those OEM turbos plus inlets (required) will run you 3K. The turbo 034 is offering is a precision turbo, not a no name FOTB turbo.

I can tell you that this car is most definitely Max’s DD, it is his personal car, not Javad’s. This in itself lends to less rigorous testing, the STk was originally thrown together on a whim, those following Max’s build on AZ are the ones that pushed for a kit to be made public.

I am in no way affiliated with 034, nor do I even use them as a supplier on a regular basis, I just think you guys have way too much conspiracy theory bullshit going on. Sometimes it really is as simple as it looks.

For the record you can get a full ko4 car for less then 1400$ with inlets. I do agree that you can’t get BW for less then say 2600$ with install hardware and inlets.

I don’t think there is any conspiracy here. I think they car performed very poorly. I believe so do several others. This turbo kit that is getting billed up as a possible alternative to ko4’s. Ok I agree. Its definitely ko4 realm. You can just see the back pedaling and attempt to get a pass on doing so poorly. This has made some of the things they said IMHO make them look bad.

There just seems to be a large amount of down play on how this wasn’t a disappointment to 034 or potential customers. Each customer will get what they think. However with the other options out there. Seems 034 is trying real hard to pump this kit up to be something it isn’t

For the price you can’t go wrong, If you want something like that… I personally think it looks and is probably a huge fire hazard. Still… the B5 community likes new and different. The car is over 10 years old so this is a smart move for 034. Good results… no.

I don’t care how you stack it. Low 12’s is a… borrowing the term from so many… fail… when you put into account the claimed hp the car weight and then the fuel. This wasn’t a shake down, this was an attempt to run strong and to make a strong showing. when you have race gas with you, make over 15 passes ur not looking to just do shakedown. Its exciting for what it is they should play into that.

I don’t like the bad marketing and trying to compare this kit to anything. This is a cool kit for Cheap. When you add up all the money ur going to need to spend it isn’t cheap anymore. As you need fueling intercoolers Etc Etc. Its cool its cheap and its something that the B5 guys will like. Maybe 034 should take some time and realize that this isn’t going to spool like a small frame KKK turbo and just showcase the kit for what it is.

More then anything I think there attempt to make this kit blend in and make the quota for what the B5 guys are looking for is where they dropped the ball and are catching all this flack. It’s a cool single turbo and single turbos can make great power. Not exactly down low great power but great power. Ur going to run mid to low 12’s on what selection they had unless you super boost the turbo still Looks like a fun ride.

Meh, I think some are over thinking this. Its not a fail, just a let down and traps show the dyno numbers were high.

A much simpler way of stating the point that i was trying to convey

Great way of putting it. 034s attempt to down play the low end results has caused more issues then if they just let it stand . Looking at this in perspective 034 is getting some of the fall out for so many other companys that have fallen short when trying to sell parts off a dyno sheet and not performance on the street. 034 will gather themselves and come back. Still, seems that some might be getting more rabid then needed.

While the results are clearly not impressive. The fact that 034 is attempting to stand up should be noted as such.