Eurocode? When they launched their clutch, didn’t they warn that it might only last 10,000 miles?
Someone I know in the industry took one look at the eurocode design and laughed because there was something super simple that eurocode missed, and it would undoubtedly cause problems.
We remember the lime green car right? His car went through a couple of these clutches in no time. Then he disappeared.
FWIW, I am 100% ready to ditch the stock FW, and go with a LWFW (minus the dual mass!).
Once my car’s clutch shows any signs of slippage, it will be GONE for JHM swap.
I thought he crashed his car? Read it here or on AZ, I forget, but someone saw it being flat bedded.
I am not trying to find the cheapest way to fix this.
What I am trying to do is be economical about it and hopefully get something that I won’t hate driving or have to fix 10K from now. I don’t have a problem buying a new FW or LWFW if that gets me where I want to go but I am hesitant because there is little to no information about aftermarket clutches and flywheels for this platform.
I think EC said something about their multiplate kit and longevity but I don’t know if that compares to what vogz bought.
vs.
clutch + lwfw:
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/616451-Introductory-Group-Buy-Eurocode-Meisterwerk-Clutch-Kit-for-the-B8-3-0T
They tried talking me into a stage 4 clutch as well, someone from there said he had it on his car for 20K with no issue but no bias there! 
Same guy also told me about adbender but a review right after install doesn’t hold much weight other than it bolted up and engages. Again its all new so I guess I just have to wait or jump on a grenade so to speak.
Agree about adbender, he seems like a nice guy with no more bias than anyone else would have. He was helpful when I was deciding on BBK’s.
Exactly, this new kit is a conventional kit and should last just like any other conventional kit as long as it holds the power.
who has tested it? how many miles?
No one other than Eurocode that I know of.
They just released it to the public last month.
With no information?
We run the EC twin plate on our 4.2l s5. Its a very friendly multi-plate clutch that has great engagement and has handled everything we have thrown at it so far. There is minimal chatter but that’s the characteristic of a mult-plate clutch. I believe the twin disc would be over kill on a 3.0t.
You mean the $2800 one with the tilton clutch?
And Euroswager what information are you looking to get? JHM has one and they give the same information as EC does, load rating, torque, material ,etc…One of the guys from EC said he had it on his car 20K miles but again not biased at all.
I don’t know of any EC beta testers, but it’s a stock style kit made with a modified stock pressure plate for more clamping force and a sprung disc with 4 different options of friction material. Obviously the stock style clutch works for many miles in almost every 6-speed S4/S5 that’s sold, so this modified setup should work even better. That’s the beauty of using a stock style clutch. The stock pressure plate is weak and the stock organic disc isn’t good for repeated abuse. They addressed both of those issues with their kit.
As for the flywheel, as long as it fits, it’s balanced correctly and doesn’t break in half, it should be much better for aggressive launching and shifting than the stock dual mass.
We shall see though. I’ll be one of the guinea pigs for this clutch as the group deal was too good to pass up.
You should do all us 3.0T guys a solid and just install it now and let us know how it works out.
The lift I’ll be using is a friend’s and his turbo mustang is currently on it and will be for the winter. As soon as his mustang is done, I’ll put the clutch in.
adbender should have a full impression well before that.
I have the JHM flywheel and stage 3 disc, which is organic on one side and ceramic on the other. No issues with the part. The driver has issues.
No ill effects in daily driving? Any chatter ? Can you provide some real cognitive feedback please?
It makes slightly more noise when the car is parked, kind of like a 2.0T. It’s very subtle. You can shift about 4 times as fast without upsetting the car. It prefers quick shifts. If you slip it, you can feel one side of the disc gripping and one slipping. The light flywheel overrevs to 7400 RPM instead of 7200 RPM of the stock dual mass. The revs fall faster when you shift (necessitating a quick shift). I haven’t done any super hard drag strip launches yet.
I view this upgrade as necessary if you’re tuned because of the torque increase. Honestly the stock clutch is a bit undercapable in handling the stock power. There’s no way you could even do 200 launches with it like you could a DSG.
^So would their stage 4 pp/disk be a better option for daily driven stage 2 car that could take some abuse from time to time? I don’t mind slight chatter or heavier pedal as long as the engagement isn’t terribly abrupt and if I could still go through NYC traffic without wanting to kill myself.
I was also thinking about keeping it as close to stock as possible with slight (15%) increase in clamping force with this Sachs unit: http://www.sachsperformance.com/Sachs-Performance-Clutch-Powerclutch/Audi/Audi-A4-8K2-B8-11-07->/S4-quattro-245-kW-;-11/2008-/Replacement-Clutch-Kit-Custom-Made-Reinforced::690.html
Anybody tried this on stock fw?