It turns out a used B8.0 red stitch steering wheel with airbag is only worth $250. Market clearing price.
Thats a good idea. Make a weight thread with all the weights of the parts being pulled off.
I’m at 3538 pounds with 1 gallon of gas. Even with my “boat anchor” wheel and tire combo, which is 44 pounds lighter than stock.
My base weight is the car, with no gas, with the spare tire and tools out of the trunk, and with the Milltek non-resonated exhaust. That exhaust has only a center muffler upstream, so a bit lighter at the rear.
Weight 3810
front brakes -10
Rear brakes -8
rollbar 80
rear seats -67
battery -40
exhaust -7
flywheel -5
wheels -40
dampers -8
rear door panels -14
rear speakers -8
carbon hood -30
front seat swap -111
gas - 8 gallons 48
front console -10
total 3580
My B6 S4 with spare tire, all factory tools + medkit, all floor matts in the car and a full tank of gas is 3860 lbs.
Only weight reduction is the ECS light weight rotors and RPF1’s.
I would have thought your car would have been much lighter with all that gucci kit.
I just installed some Corbeaus, and removed rear seats and the matting ahead of my next TA event… I am guessing my OEM seats are identical to yours, the corbeaus are 20 lbs a pop + 11 for each base…
I will roll it on the scales and see how much weight I lost.
I like the direction of your thread!
What kind of idiot puts a racing seat and a rollbar in a heavy German sedan?
Great post this is very good information
That’s impressive. Also impressive: Panarama holds the record for a sedan at Streets of Willow springs. It also has one of the top 10 lap times of any production car. That is really impressive.
They are a bit heavy, but can set some decent times when dialed in
I don’t know how one can justify a Panamera Turbo on US roads. The S model seems like plenty. I guess unless you took it to 1/4 mile often enough. I couldn’t see doing more than 1 track weekend a year in it. Neat that you can get rear steering to reduce turning circle to smaller than that of a 2017 A4. Best of both worlds.
It’s not that crazy, I’d rather have the panamera GTS its the most fun 0-60 still 4.0 and insane throttle, just doesn’t have the oh shit rush from 3800 and up that the turbos do. Again if you spend most time under 90 mph and nice country roads get the GTS.
I do love the redesigned rear of the 2017 but would rather get an older gen panny since prices will be pushed down some over the next few years.
Better yet ditch em all and get a gt3 or even a 991 with all sporting options and power kit and sport design, it’s 85% of a gt3 with more power around town -
Or a Cayman? Maybe an R couldn’t justify the gt4 yet
I have a 981. Much practical:
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This seems like the ultimate cruiser. 8 speed DCT, 440 HP, 400 ft/lb, Apple CarPlay, rear steer, best seats in the business, as much leather as you can afford, first LED matrix lights. On a component level you can see how it gets to $110k quickly. Overall a much better car than a a loaded RS7, assuming you can deal with 150 less HP lol.
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That looks dope. Well done.
This is what it looks like for someone with 1/10th your budget ;D
I would say I’m over budget. But I have a component level understanding of the special edition cars like the Jaguar SVR, and why they cost double. They’re actually a good value.
Essentially I could have bought a GT4 instead of modding this car beyond brakes, but let’s be honest I would get into modding that also (suspension, rotor replacements, etc.) It’s a very tail happy car (nose is impossibly light).
If they do another GT4 (big if as far as race homologation) I think it will have to be turbo as the new 718 S loaded is within 1 second of the current GT4. That might make it a marketing name only unless they start racing turbos in the junior leagues.
I didn’t find the GT4 tail happy, it’s very neutral in my opinion I drove one in the wet and it was perfection. I have only driven a base model Cayman to compare it to, but it was much more neutral than my S4. I don’t think Porsche will turbo it, the GT4 exists for drivers who still want a kinetic experience that can’t be satiated in the post GTR world. It’s the reason why people still spend 40k on a used Lotus Elise/Exige. That kinetic in touch driving experience is becoming a thing of the past, everything is yaw controlled DSG, electro steering with PASM dampening and etc. The GTR is not that much more than Cayman GT4, but is infinitely faster than any Porsche made right now outside of the 918… That being said, most GT4 or even GTS owners would never even consider a GTR as it is as far from that experience as possible. I liken the GTR is to driving as the flesh light is to sex. An awesome but ultimately artificial experience.
My point is the GT4 should be as kinetic as possible because that’s the premium people are paying for. That being said, the Viper ACR might just be the last great super car currently produced as far as a raw driving experience, pretty sure that if it was legal they would have opted to omit ABS and other nuances that stifle the driving experience. Naturally Aspirated engines still hold so much more value to me, that’s why I still think that the 458 is infinitely better than the 488… But I’m getting off point.
Porsche owners were so pissed about a PDK in the GT3 RS that Porsche had to rebuild a new model for them. It actually annoys me that the GTR has influenced the corporate culture so much that the obsession with ring times has made excellent computers and terrible cars. The Cayman is still one of the last true sports cars offering some spirit. The mx 5 is pretty damn good as well, lotus is still where I set my benchmark. There are always better faster cars, but at this point the GT4 is my dream car should I win the lottery.
I don’t know. I like my 981 a lot but I don’t think it’s god’s chariot. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to run it as a dedicated track car. The rear suspension is just a front suspension without the steering rack. It’s weird that the rear track isn’t wider than the front track, given the rear weight bias and light nose. The steering has no ackerman correction so the springs bind at low speed. It’s an unsophisticated ride in some ways, almost like when the mustang has the live axle. I’m in the camp that would rather go up to a 991, rather than drop $100k on a GT4.
These are really minor complaints on one of the best drivers cars you can buy. I’d make a much bigger list on the Miata.
The only cars getting sideways at an Audi track day are Cayman S, GTS, GT4. They’re easy to hold in a slide, but they’re also quite easy to spin.
don’t forget the Z06 Manual and rwd and simple and not as slow as an mx-5
Interesting to know.
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