I was on the The Book the other day and the owner of this car posted to my buddy’s wall footage of this 2.7 TiAL770 avant… Looks pretty quick, but someone made a comment “useless without a trap speed” lol… Figured that was right up this forum’s alley! He said he’s going to the track next week, I believe.
So anyone want to guess what a TiAL770 car will trap?
What’s up bro. how’s is the audi portion of your life treating you?
I wanted know if you could find out if this car participated at the track rental on 6-22. And if so what did it do? Thanks
we have been discussing this already over here…
http://audirevolution.net/forum/index.php?topic=1192.msg27897#msg27897
As for the guess, I guess that next week it will run 0.00 @ 0 MPH because they won’t run it. I predict they will spend 6 months upgrading the ‘driveline’, then another year going widebody.
They will realise in the midst of this that they are a business in a difficult economic environment, and spending $20,000 of capital on costmetic shit like widebody is kind of silly when you sell performance parts and haven’t proven what you sell. So the widebody will get hung up half way through, and they won’t run the car till we all forget about it and don’t care.
How’s that for a prediction?
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Hey man… Car is doing well, it’s where I want it for now. I bought a VW as a DD and I now get to pick and choose when to take the S4 out of the garage, it’s nice! Next year I hope to refresh my engine, sandblast and clean everything, do very minimal work to the bottom end, with rods and stock coated pistons, refresh heads, and probably do RS6rs… If I can sell my K04s for 1K+ (still going strong, no noise @ 50k) that’ll be great. I want to do more of a restoration build than a build to go any faster. Where I drive my car it’s plenty.
I’ll see if I hear anything… I only saw this on my buddy’'s FB wall from a recent Avant drive they had in the Northeast but I cracked up when I saw the video of him revving it out to 6K in each gear.
Lol… Crap. I was hoping you guys didn’t get a hold of it already. I just read something contradicting though, he said in the first post on AZ that he was planning on doing the driveline mods to make it not a dyno queen, but on Facebook he said to someone he was going to the track next week. I don’t see why he can’t go and roll out in 2nd and go full throttle through hopefully 5th gear 
Funny…nothing has gone faster frankly on an S4 on turbo alone.
welll in his defence, I wouldn’t go and do a baseline run just to appease guys like us. Why? If it’s legit but his clutch sucks, and he runs 11.7 @ 134…that’s a massive failure for the ‘most powerful S4 in the world’. There;'s no point. 034 did this…ran a mediocre time considering the power claims…and showed everyone they’re making probably 400 whp. Which is awesome…but isn’t 500 whp. Fortunately for 034 the B5 scene is primarily made up of people who live and die by the dyno sheet, so they didn’t even realise that time was crap.
Frankly RSworx shouldn’t have released the dyno at all. The way you do it is you dyno it during tuning, then make sure the car is fast at the dragstrip. When you’re done, you release all of the info. Not piecemeal. If you have to release something on its own, you release the timelsip/video of your car actually going fast. That’s my opinion of course. They can do whatever they want but doing it this way just means it’s another unproven dyno sheet. Again though, that seems to work. Look at the perfervid reactions on both the RSworx thread and the 034 single turbo to the dyno results lol.
I hope you’re wrong but I would have to agree. Excuses are tee’d up and ready to be deployed.
Spot on. But your prediction further down traps in the 130s is off burning coals 600awhp 5.4 60-130 dump only trapped 128 so im going to go with 129 with them because they will make up the weight excuse of an avant!
Looks like Clint its still sticking to his built in excuse for failure and fir avoiding the strip. He said this is response to someone saying that,740 whp wagon should run in the 10s comfortably.
Strange that so many other cars with the 01e and this gearing don’t seen to have a problem. Just team dyno and team ‘dragstrip is.kryptonite’.
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yeah a 67mm on usp car spools soooooo fast lol. and oh it has a 01e lol
Oh noes…the 01e!
Even though a bunch of guys have gone tens with it and haven’t complained a lick. Seems the 01e works for everyone but the tial/epl guys. Although the jfonz tuned 770 car went 11.1 @ 130…so that leaves only the epl part of the equation that needs help in the case of the 01e.
Who tuned this ‘740 whp’ yellow wagon again? uhoh.
Lets get some input on what a car with this power and this torque and this area under the curve SHOULD run.
Personally when I think of 740 whp, awd, 3700 lbs, my thought process immediately starts at low low tens to high nines at nearly 145-150 mph.
Do we have any comparables?
Guru trapped 140 making around 625 or 650 whp (can’t remember). This wagon weighs about 150 lbs more than guru in theory…so I don’t think that should kill its chances of putting a beating on guruman . That kind of weight average can be made up with modest amounts if power…I’m thinking about 20 whp. If they are making 100 more to the wheels…that should make up for that weight a few times over…so them trapping 142-144 or something shouldn’t be out of the question.
If were being technical about this. The 700whp car will be no faster then the other 700whp flops in the past. Why… Its simple. Area under the curve. Lets just for the sake of conversation say this car actually made 700whp or more. Did we not forget that the 770 turbos spool slow and late… I know I know. There will be some guy without a 770 car that will chime in and post a log of how great a 770 can boost. But lets be honest this big dick swinging contest has been a failure every time. Unless of coarse your on a dyno or doing a video run that starts at 95mph :
There are a mountain of good reasons why the B8 S4 with about 200whp less then some of the Tial cars has been faster. Its called area under the curve.
Chances are it will have a strong MPH due to it only really starting to get going at about the 1/8th mile. Altho given this is a shop front car. I wouldn’t doubt that there is a chance of NOS being snuck on there to help pimp the shop. AMD did it to try and push there tial turbos. As this platform gets more and more dated and nothing new is coming out. It shouldn’t be much of a surprise that more and more desperation moves are going to be made to make already lack luster products seem like gold.
I don’t know…the dyno plots look great. Since it is all we have to go on, and since these epl guys claim it is legit, lets hooks then to it.Justin, what do you think the car SHOULD trap if the numbers are legit.
Not what you predict it WILL trap…what SHOULD a 740 whp (900 crank our so HP) AWD car with an 01e, weighing about 3700 lbs trap?
~10.1@133
you think it should trap 133? Making that power? I think much higher. Much Much higher.
well a 550whp e55 4100 car traps 130 so idk it should trap 145s at least
hard to compare platform to platform but I know what you mean.
If the car traps 130 and you use the MB argument, the apologist/coddlers will all say that it’s not a fair comparison due to gearing etc.
Just in the Audi B5 2.7T world we have a few examples of cars putting up big trap speeds. This car makes crazy power (according to the dyno, which is owned by the tuner, who is selling their tuning and these turbos 
) so we should see some crazy trap speeds that had really better start with 14
I honestly just guessed some numbers…it wasn’t an educational guess by any means
It will trap about 138-142, not based on power alone, but whole package.
That’s a full out run at what weight I think it is. It would be cool if they sprayed too. If I can’t grab 9s this fall in sac I will probably do it.