AMD S/C... should I?

B6/7 S4/RS4
#101

British and I are mechanics and so is the Guy that put your car together. You on the other hand is the actor, so I could never act as if I knew what I was talking about. You, the actor is given a script to practice. You as an actor should have realized that AMD was acting like the head bolts were to blame for your engine failure.

I don’t have to ask British anything. He nor I was there when your car was built, tuned, or when it blew up. British doesn’t know if your head bolts were the cause of your motors death. You need to stop being an actor when talking to AMD about your car, or maybe you need to “act” like you got some balls and ask for the detective head bolts, so that you can prove to everyone that you are not a fool who believes bullshit from a professional bullshiter(AMD)

Matter fact, I want to see if you can convince British into making a fool of himself by saying it was your bead bolts. He" I and other can only assume. Ill wait for his response…

#102

That’s funny, what shop do you own? And when did I ask for him to discuss my engine?

#103

No, what is funny is you not answering the question

You claimed that the oem head bolts can’t hold power (news to me but what do I know about b5 motor builds… Not much)

Then you claimed that your engine failed or something terrible happened, after your 6 month motor build completed by amd.

Then you sent the car back to amd and they said ‘it was just the head bolts’

Yes? So… If they are so smart… And if this is so common a problem… Why did they not change $20 in parts out the first time?

There are two answers

  1. This is not common at all which explains why they didn’t change them out the first time they did your build.

  2. This is common, but your shop just dropped the ball when charging you god knows what for a motor build.

Which is it?

#104

I hate double edged swords…damned if you do, damned if you don’t tweets.

#105

What are you talking about? Who is ‘you guys’? You understand that if one guy on this site says something, that doesn’t mean everyone said it. I mean I know you’re a mental case who thinks everyone here is the same person, and have had multiple meltdowns on that topic, each more entertaining than the last…but wake the fuck up. You’re posting here too. Does that mean you said it?

I realise this isn’t as fun as crank calling someone’s wife and pretending you’re the cops with a bun of pothead buddies , but do us all a favor snow Trooper, try to get a grip and slow the fuck down.

#106

There are not two answers, that is an incorrect statement.

How about the truth rather your fabricated answers? Jason had been using a version (Not OEM) of the torque to yield bolt. That bolt had never failed on him before and he had a lot of customers using that bolt with success. He used OEM headbolts on mine and boom, the first set of blown gaskets he has ever had on a APB happened. Now, a year later, it has become more known to not use OEM head bolts and a lot people are going to ARP studs when they do a 3.0L, including myself.

Have I answered all of your questions? May I leave now?

And I should add I’m not the only one who sees a blown up engine as I described http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=394456

Just one of many sites that think the same way. Saying a blown headgasket (s) does not mean a blown engine, two different implications all together. Nice try though boys :smiley:

#107

The miata forum is where u get ur info?? Lol
U are a joke.
And it’s been way longer than just a year that people have been using arp bolts.
You must be living in the dark ages lol

#108

If the miata forum can figure that out and AR can’t what does that say? When did I say this is the first time people are using ARP? I’m saying more are going to them, not people are just now discovering them. I find your assessment of my statements lacking sir.

#109

Tweet u are one lost individual.

#110

You know that this isn’t a play set in the 1700s… right?

Anyway it wasn’t a year ago your motor went pop. It was in the summer. You ran a fake quarter mile with a pbox, on a 30 foot decline (lol) and went 12.0 or 12.1. That was in summer. 10 months ago. Not sure when your car went to shit after that.

And in the 9-10 months or so since then, I guess you’re claiming a revolution in bolts has happened, and now nobody uses oem.

Funny shit.

Its chaotic in your head isn’t it? Must be tough to justify the shit you tell yourself.

#111

20ft drop over the 1/4mile run from what you told me, which we have found at a few 1/4 tracks. it always had symptoms (white smoke and loosing collant)and they were thought to be bad turbos and a leaky heat core seal remember? It was delivered at the end of may so in two weeks. That makes it two weeks short of a year.

Again incorrect. It is laughable that I am mocked for using English properly when others post with total disregard to our native tongue.

Lets do the math on the slope of the run, shall we? Using your number even, 30/1320=0.022727272727273 so a -2.2% slope. Which, is barely even visually seen. If its 20/1320 it = 0.015151515151515 so 1.5%… You’re going to say I had a significant advantage with that…?

With all of that said I haven’t brought it up because you said it was void of truth (referencing the “Vbox is useless” thread, not the actual working title but a gist) and I wasn’t allowed to reference that.

#112

We use OEM, but not OEM supply. His mistake was spending more money on what was percieved as better for a given stretch bolt on this build. The bolt to use is the FAG brand where as they got bolts from Audi. Or non stretch aftermarket like arp or raceware are always an option, but also a pain in the ass.

#113

Not the only time I’ve heard this.

#114

Nope, not 20. 26 feet. 2% and that is significant. Have we ever seen an nhra track with anything close to that? Never. Milan is less than a foot of change. Ubly was flat. My track is like 6 feet. Palm Beach has a 6 for stop and a 5 foot rises so it is net 1 foot

Nothing nhra certified is remotely close to 26 feet. That is the equivalent of starting the race on a ramp running down from the roof of your 2 story house. Or the roof of your toy box. Imagine it. It would be a huge advantage, especially mph wise.

If your memory fails you, the breakdown of your pbox run is in the ‘where are all the fast EPL tuned cars’ thread (and apparently, now we know they are in the b7 rs4 forums)

#115

I stand corrected, 26 feet, so to be fair it wasn’t 30 ft. And I thought you said the Vbox was terrible at deciphering altitude?
Whatever the case is I am not bringing it up, you are. I don’t even care about that, I’ll go do a faster MPH than the Vbox run.
Argument ended, I don’t care about the Vbox run.

#116

Yeah Vbox is garbage in my mind. Fun… But not reliable.

I raised the issue in the storied 60-130 thread on 6 speed, and people all started looking at their runs on dragstrips where they had run multiple times, and found that the elevation would vary by as much as 10-12 feet from one run to the next… Same track, same lane. Its really disappointing. It also calls into question their entire list over there lol.

So your - 26 foot run could actually have been - 38 feet. Or - 14 feet.

If you were selling a product and your competitor used a pbox to ‘prove’ his products, knowing what I just said, wouldn’t you think it’s a bit hollow of them?

I’m glad people like the guys on this site have gotten through to some of the companies that normally wouldn’t hit the strip with their fancy audi products. I don’t know why our brand is so snobby. I see ferrari and lamborghini and gtr and porsche drivers there all the time. It is truly a fantastic benchmark for all manner of performance cars. The tide seems to be shifting towards accepting that it is really the true benchmark, especially when you pop your head into the b8 section.

Your friend Jason used to trash the quarter mile all the time. Why? Because his cars didn’t do well there. Now that they’ve had a taste of the success, they will realise how powerful it is. NOTHING can discredit that time now. They can slap all kinds of doubters in the face with it if they ran a legit great time. If people say ‘you guys are a bunch of dyno manipulators’ they can say ‘fuck you… Here’s our timeslip’. It also raises the bar with respect to competition. Companies like vf dont get in the front door with an m90 rs4 kit for $13,000 when you have the established competition trapping 120-125 mph well into the 11s. What’s vf going to do… Say ‘trust our dyno!’? Hell no. People will now laugh them out of the forum.

Hopefully you understand our angle on this topic over here.

#117

SO what happens when the AMD RS4 is epic on the strip?? How are all of the AMD/EPL guys going to feel after they have discredited and denounced the track for years…along with the ring leader?

All guys like tweets and ST can say about AR is we flip flop and whatever else…
But this is a TRUE flip-flop and it’s hilarious, Guys like killer are going to shit when the AMD RS4s performance is complimented with a great 1/4 mile time.

Tweets…why the fuck have you found such an attraction to the B6/7 forums? it’s weird how you want to come in and give Spiral advice on his shit VF kit (like your an expert), but in other threads like the AMD thread you comment on the difference of efficiency of the 1900 and 1320 and say it’s cool because you don’t have much experience with it due to you being in the TURBO world. I think artistic people are cool, but most are bat shit crazy.

#118

regarding the vbox altitude issues does anyone have the factory documentation from theirs? I’m curious what is used for a sensor (3 axis accelerometer), sample rate and how they are mounted.

#119

Definitely. And I really think most of the credit goes to Primetime. He’s certainly the reason I started going to the track, and I’m sure that’s the case for many B8 owners. Easily the most valuable contributor to our platform.

It’s funny - when people ask me how much power I’m making, I usually just say who the hell cares - my car ran a 12.3 in the 1/4 mile on pump gas. Why would anything else matter?

#120

Agreed, nothing else does matter. In fact, I avoid telling people what my dyno says because its embarrassing. Not the figures but the et.