Anyone have experience with wraps?

I have to get 2 panels painted because of an acidic drip from my garage. But since I’m tired of Brilliant Black - just too many black Audis out here, and I’ve been looking at wraps. Does anyone have any experience with this - i.e. durability, maintenance, etc. The shop offers a 2-year warranty, but they say the films have a 5-7 year warranty/lifespan.

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A buddy and I wrapped his car ourselves… Probably 80-90hrs of labour between body prep and wrapping.

As for durability it lasted well through our -40C winters with salted and gravel roads.

Just make sure its a reputable wrap like 3M or Avery. And ask for an extra 10 or 20ft for after. Colors are done in batches and sometime don’t match after. Just for repairs if necessary.

Your costs at a shop will be comparable to getting a paint job… Budget $2500.

To wrap a B5 A4 it cost us $770 in materials.

I also have my motorcycle gas tank wrapped in pearl satin white. Looked amazing, but have to be careful with gasoline spills.

I will post some pics tonight for you

I actually talked to a guy who had a wrapped car bit a big chunk was missing in the rear corner of the car. Me and a buddy were trying to figure out why the car had one spot a completely different color on the rear corner. I guess something scrapped the car bad enough to expose the area he was doing a repair but didn’t finish it.

The wrap looked great you couldn’t tell the car was wrapped unless you opened the doors or other body exposure part that wasn’t wrapped. It seemed very durable.

This inspired me too do try wrapping my motorcycle tank with a wild print. Something small like a tank with lots of different contour became challenging. Not sure you would run into this as much with a car. It takes longer to wrap then it would to paint it labor wise from what I experienced as I painted my tank the year before I wrapped it.

Like mentioned above get 3M the quality wrap is worth the money. If you have time and want something durable in a new color wrapping is a nice option.

paint the car.

Wraps do not last and show their age fast with gravel and rocks chipping at it.

no resale value. You will peel it off before you sell it and there will be the same problem.

yeah, resale is a killer. People assume it’s keyed underneath or worse. You have to.

So basically people will pay you car value -the cost of a high end paint job and -a hassle factor. Figure about $7,000 to $10,000 less than market value for a normal car.

And it will take a while for someone to buy it as well.

I’ve seen 2 out of probably 100 wrap jobs that look good from closer than 10feet.

Man, I’m surprised anti-wrap there is in here. Done properly I’m a fan, but it depends on the reasons.

If you’re doing it because you just want a color change or something fun and don’t mind the $1-2k, then yea, it’s great. Anyone doing it and thinking it is a replacement to paint does not understand it’s purpose. But anyone thinking a decent paint job can be had for under $5k is also not thinking straight either.

Me personally,I’d rather have a factory paint job with factory paint on an Audi that is dinged and nicked up any day over some indy shop doing a replacement paint color. You can often fill in small nicks on a factory paint and buff out a lot more. An aftermarket paint job usually cuts corners, and often can even raise further suspicion (was there body damage, rust issues, how bad was the car really treated, etc).

I’m actually planning on wrapping my Porsche (and maybe even my jeep for fun). I’m probably going to do a bulk of it myself and then have a friend who does it professionally do the rest. It is VERY common now adays for high-end cars to to have the full body wrapped in clear wraps. That is probably 75% of his business. He just got done wrapping a custom build on an original RSR porsche that the paint job alone was $60k+. But mostly it’s guys who get a new $100k+ car and have him do a full detail and then wrap it in the clear wrap. The biggest thing most people don’t realize is how much better the wraps have gotten from 5 years ago, and even 2-3 years ago to today.

Also, you need to remember there is a big difference between a honda or B5 kid buying cheap wrap with no experience and slapping it on himself, vs a professional shop using a high quality material and has done it for many years.

I had a clear bra put on my Audi when I got it, and 3 years later it did look pretty shitty, but after I pulled it off and buffed it, there was virtually no difference and thankfully no damage to the front end for what otherwise would have been a peppering of rock chips etc.

Last year at SOWO, there was a fellow Porsche guy who had his 996tt wrapped and I swear, from 1ft away, you could barely tell it was a wrap job. And I was with several other car enthusiasts (heck, one of them is a even founder of stanceworks) and we were all impressed by it.

I do agree with Saki though in the regard that most people would be / are going to be very suspicious of a wrapped car when it comes time to sell it. But I would just plan on the removing the wrap when it comes time to sell it. You also could have professional photos taken before wrapping it just for documentation sake, but people are still going to be suspicious unless it’s in the right market.

Anyhow, sorry for the long rant, but for me, I’m a fan given the right circumstances.

For your given situation though, if a good shop feels they can match/blend the paint for the damaged panels to be re-done without having to paint the whole car, then I would do that first and then wrap the car. But I would not consider a wrap being a replacement to paint and I would plan on it being likely that you’ll end up pulling the wrap off before it sells.

If a good shop feels a full paint job is required, I would seriously consider thinking long and hard before re-painting the whole car a different color as far as longevity and resale is concerned.

Thanks for the replies.

I’m mostly motivated by the opportunity to change colors from black/black - which is all too common here. Not really concerned about resale value because the market for used S6 v10s is already in the pits - that’s why I bought one. I’ve already basically written it off, but I’m wondering if a new color will keep me interested enough to keep the car for a few extra years. I agree with the previous poster, a color-change paint job that is well-done is going to cost much more than a wrap in a similar color. I could always go back to the original paint and have it touched up if necessary.

The shop I’m looking at does a lot of high end cars - AMGs, Cayennes, Audis, etc. and they look good. He’s steering me away from gloss/metallic wraps but I’m not exactly clear why (language difference) - any ideas aside from fashion? And for low-care, long-life durability, he’s recommending this brand, hexis, over 3M http://www.hexis-graphics.com/en/products/view/359

Glossy wraps are less forgiving on imperfections. And metallic wraps change color slightly when stretched… Like around mirrors and other round shapes.

Save the wraps for corporate advertising… If you don’t like the color, trade to a different one or get a professional paint job. IMHO, just because nearly all of us have black S6’s doesn’t make your car run-of-the-mill… how many other black S6’s have you seen in person besides yours? I would wager 0 or maybe 1. I’ve seen more 30x more black 911’s this year than Black S6’s.

Hexis is the wrap I’m buying most likely. It was a gloss version. But as mentioned, certainly less forgiving. But not your problem if you’re having a professional shop take care of it.

I think I prefer gloss, and I’m going to pay to have it professionally installed. But are there any long-term care/wear differences between gloss & the matte finishes? I’m sure you can’t polish out any light scratches at the detail shop…

Not that I’ve seen.

My buddy just cleaned his vinyl with all purpose cleaner and the occassional pressure wand wash. just be careful on edges.

and there are little things you can do to fix chips, but you may have to redo the whole panel.

I was still really surprised to see it survive our harsh winters in Manitoba (25+ days sub -25C) with gravel on the roads 6 months a year. so if you’re in a nice climate, I’m sure this will be a good product for you.

if I didn’t mention it before, gotta be extremely careful with gasoline. it lifts the vinyl right off

ironically on your black 911 lol

Lol lol lol. Great catch.

So Maddog with top of the pine materials and a professional doing the install. What would be the cost to wrap your car. Not buy you but a professional.

I would say average price for a professionally wrapped sedan is normally around $2,500-$3500.

For me, I’m probably not going to wrap the roof, rear wing, or turbo vents, and the 996 Porsche is a pretty small car as well (and is surprisingly easy to disassemble, i.e. tailight,s etc come out very easily), so I would say it would probably only require $400-500 in material and then probably $1,250 or so in labor, or maybe a tad more. But that would be a ballpark. I haven’t had a full quote done just because of time and I know that I’m not going to go that direction.

My friend that does it professionally has an automated vinyl cutter (basically feeds the roll through and it cuts out the pattern for each body panel). So I’ll probably have him pre-cut it for me, and then have him wrap the bumpers and then I’ll do the rest. Probably end up paying him a couple hundred bucks and some beers to make it fair for him.

Good to know. It’s expensive any way you go I guess. The DIY way can be done both ways. Looks like they both have there strong points. I like the idea of wrapped up with clear wrap. That was something I didn’t think of but I guess guys with new expensive cars would want some protection.

^Yea, it’s not a cheap solution, but you’re talking about a relatively limited market of professionals installing something meant to be on the car for at least 3-5 years. There’s also a decent bit of prep work required (i.e. full proper detail which most professionals will charge $300-400 alone).

The commercial aspect is cheaper b/c graphics hide imperfections, and they’re going on vans with big flat sides, not complex curves that show imperfections much easier. Plus, the non-commercial aspect puts a higher demand on the quality of the wrap material for colors and shine which also adds to the expense in production and application.

The cheap version is the “dip” method with plasti-dip or the such. That also has come much further along than most people realize. And while there are some very good results that can be had done properly, it’s still not a smooth finish. But application and all can be had for $400-600 professionally. The unwrap, or peel off process scares me a bit though, even though most don’t have any problems, the one gripe I hear is how it gets everywhere and becomes a pain to get out of crevices etc.

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is that like ‘the Iraq’?

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