This is Alabama remember…
2014…
http://i.imgur.com/q1Fi0B2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/il0HfXP.jpg
2015…
http://i.imgur.com/NdZcdS7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PhslKoL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WaqUD3b.jpg
Looks the same no?
A lot less actually.
In 2015, it was 7 wide, 5 deep x2 with not all seats full.
2014, one side is 7 wide, 8 or 9 deep . . . other side is on average 7-8 wide, same amount deep. Not all seats full either.
This year the distributer conference was split into a domestic distributer conference last weekend, and an international conference this coming weekend or the one after.
This was due to last years being too big. It was a great choice of APR to do this, it left the groups we break down into into four manageable groups of 25. This allowed us to better interaction with APR employee’s.
But of course you knew this with the level of info you get about APR. This is just you using ‘smoke and mirrors’ to make APR look bad or like they are failing with out telling the whole story which I feel it’s almost impossible you did’t know. Which begs the question, how many of the other things you post about APR have a very important ‘other side’ you don’t mention in order to bend the story to your agenda?
Nice to see APR employees posting here.
Unfortunately for you, many of your dealers felt that the conference was “empty” and that Mangrove showed “just how little they think of dealers.” Comments such as “the writing’s on the wall” and “insulting our intelligence with seminars on how to post on forums” were mentioned.
There’s quite a bit more but I figure I’d let the pictures your dealers took speak for themselves.
I’m a dealer not an employee, I went to APR to lay eye’s on exactly what was going on. I was quite pleasantly surprised. I had expected the worst and found the best.
The sentiment you portray was not one that other dealers expressed to me, though maybe some felt that way? IDK, it certainly wasn’t the prevailing sentiment. The prevailing sentiment I encountered echoed mine of being reassured and happy.
It looked like Joel set up a pretty awesome exhaust program. While yes the castings and bends have been outsourced finishing of those parts, their final assembly and most import and quality control was done in house. I feel confident it will be a better product than the previous Billy boat or Corsa produced exhausts.
Sorry, I mistook you for the other “anonymous” poster, which was Sean@APR, who undoubtedly hasn’t came back after Joel showed MG all our texts.
The exhaust program is good, but it was supposed to be much better (v-bands & mufflers with sound tuning). The only thing I’d be concerned about is the quality of the castings, as evidenced by the newer manifolds that they’ve been shipping out. It’ll be interesting to see how subsequent exhaust products are released without their “exhaust guy” and how they’ll compare with all the other offerings he’s set up in the market.
I noticed post-conference a broadcasted sense of optimism from some dealers and a sense of doom from others. Some of it might have to do with the amount of APR inventory they hold in stock 
Since you were there this weekend, did you get an answer for this?
what was Sean@APR’s secret (not-so-secret) account name here again? I forget already.
Once I asked him to clarify his position, he vanished. I guess he doesn’t realise the site ownership and moderator team know what an ip address is.
People who knew “the old APR” and APR’s quality will always buy APR.
People who hate APR, will never buy anything APR regardless of the ownership or management.
The mainstream who just want a little extra HP “chip” will most likely to buy APR, especially for the cruise control features. With all the fat-trimming/racing program/“jet”, APR should be very profitable.
They’re not able to do program switching on SIMOS.
I don’t disagree that APR will be very profitable.
It’s difficult to gauge tuning “quality”. I prefer the older APR calibrations/rs to the newer ones. From all of the recent shuffling in the tuning world, it has become extremely apparently that changes in calibration staff can immediately change how “good” a tune is. Just look at how much better REVO’s been doing after they hired new calibrators.
B8 s4 is simos, isn’t it? I have switching via cruise… Have you looked at a log from a b8/8.5 s4? Revo still needs some help IMO… Not sure about other platforms though… Will be interested to see how the apr tunes change/evolve though…
If they are doing so “awesome” explain to me why their cars are for sale at a local lot 2 miles from my house? I live 3.5 miles from APR and the lot is filled with Camry’s, Honda’s, Explorer’s and other crap.
http://www.turnerautogroupllc.com/mobile/view/1655
http://www.turnerautogroupllc.com/mobile/view/1670
I’m good friends with the owner of this car lot as well and he finds it pretty comical that they have asked him to try and move this inventory.
That is funnnny
Hah, I guess Andrew Mernone decided not to buy the RS5… I’m guessing they took the supercharger off the RS5.
Good guess.
They should have sold those off ages ago.
I’ll shoot over there later on or give Nathan a buzz to find out about the supercharger. 
Is this MG selling the cars off to raise money or are those not APR owned cars
Mangrove owns it all and does with it as they see fit. They took back Stephen’s plush motor home and the original APR Toter…both of which are currently being stored down the street from my shop. Since APR still owes money on services rendered, they approached my business partner for a new headliner in the Toter. He told them, “you do realize who you’re contacting, right? That you owe us a substantial amount of money?” They had no clue who they were calling and he politely told them to fuck off. It was an epic conversation to say the least!