First, this is an app (for one OS). Not a dongle. They are circumventing the apple fees by attaching the fees to some lame dongle. Fine with me, but make the “app” more attractive in price, $199 is a little hard to swallow.
Second, it’s also not yet proven in the marketplace (bugs, efficiency, usability, etc.). Ripe for an early adopter or existing customer discount. Which none were made available. This is not about recovering engineering costs, they need users, not money at this point in time.
Lastly, who is actually the benenenenfactor? I am still not convinced this isn’t a dealer product, as that is who is going to plug it in to do some testing for you when you come in complaining about hesitation in 3rd gear with your stage 2 file. Even if you do it yourself (Log some runs, send files to APR, they fix their tune or file as a result) – you still had to pay $200 to help APR improve their product?
Making an app isn’t that expensive. Over the life of the app, supporting/debugging/improving/troubleshooting will far exceed the initial capital required to write the initial code. But then again, it is in APR’s best interests to support as it helps them improve their product. Just not sure where I fit into this picture.
I don’t get the significance. I’m saying it seems a lot like ECUx which I thought was APR’s property (or Eurosomething?), and then it got passed around all over the B5 world. I just assume it will end up there too.
Aren’t the extra maps aditional? Why not include this with anyone who picks up more than one map. It would compete with revo’s thing and look a lot cooler in the process.
There’s much more to it than just program switching…I don’t see the problem with charging $200. It sounds like they will also be adding functionality over time …like gauges.
Must admit that if upon launching the app, if APR news comes up like it says It will, I’d be pretty disappointed that I paid $200 and agree with wellarmed that it should cost less.
Some serious nerd potential here! Mostly for Cory but anyone else with a B8: does the MMI have a video in? There’s potential for using one of those little Android dongle things like this: https://www.miniand.com/products/MK802%20Android%20Mini%20PC
I get charging for the dongle. $200 might be a tad steep, but their prices certainly aren’t to cover development cost. I think it’d be a better advertising ploy to sell it all as a kit. I.e. $600 tune is now $800, but you can opt to not have the dongle and app for $650.
At the end of the day, most the guys buying tunes aren’t going big mods, but they still want to play around, tinker with stuff, and show off what they can do. This tech stuff is a huge marketing bit to the base line tune guys, even though it doesn’t “benefit” them that much.
I do find it a bit odd they’re charging $200 for the dongle and another $2 for the app. Come-on, just give the app away in the price of the dongle.
Either way, cool system.
I wonder how you edit/export out the data plot though. Does it export & email in excel format, or .cvs? If you don’t have a good means to export the data-logging, then it’s mostly useless.
It’d also be a great ploy for them to have some preset data-logging values where people just select recall and then do a pull. Be another gimmick / convenience selling point.
there must be a reason for the $200 vs $2 thing. I don’t think they arbitrarily picked $2. Must be something to do with being a paid app vs. a free app.