Yeah, I’m guessing this too (which is why the idea of a Stage III RS5 launching is a little scary to me). I’m not sure about VW/Audi dual clutch transmissions, but I’m wondering if there will be aftermarket clutch pack upgrades (kinda like what the Evo X and GTR guys have).
yeah, I wouldn’t worry too much.
That is what Audi is saying about the DSG however we can’t forget that they are saying ‘can’t use DSG on the RS6/7 cars because we have to warranty these things for 4 years’. Good rule of thumb is they’re going to have 50% of a buffer. If they put DSG on a ca that makes 400 tq, they’re likely good to 600 tq. Who knows really but it’s a rule of thumb.
You don’t see people modding cars to 200% or more without having loads of problems. i.e. the entire B5 S4 market. Once you take those things beyond 500 hp (250 hp stock) they start becoming dyno queens because guys are scared to drive them for fear of parts flying off lol.
The B8 came with about 360 tq. The RS4 about 325. The R8 V10 Plus around 380. That would spell 550-600 crank torque that should be pretty easy. 500 wtq or so. I don’t think any of these cars are going to hit that.
The S8 and Rs6? that’s another story. It won’t be a big deal to see 750-800 hp (crank) S8/RS6/RS7 once the Russians get their hands on them lol.
I’m honestly most excited to see the RS5 with the APR blower, that thing is gonna be disgusting with DSG and that V8… I’m sure if APR releases that and thinks it’s safe the S4 with DSG will be fine. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the RS5 hit 10’s in the 1/4 on pump.
I’ve said it from the beginning: 1740 RS4 v 1740 RS5 will be the most exciting passes at the track. It’s basically manual v DSG at that point (though I understand the 4.2 in the RS5 underwent some upgrades that are not in the RS4).
I agree that DSG will be fine for the B8 S4, but note Arin’s comments above about the different clutches between the S4 and RS5.
I actually just saw that… Hmm, wonder if that’ll be a difference we see in the Stage 3 development for the S4…
I personally think the RS4 has more in it also, I think the APR 1740 on the RS4 should perform similar to the JHM kit, factor in 93 octane and even better driving I think we might see a 10.9 out of the RS4 too… That RS5 with LC and an 8500RPM redline with the DSG is gonna be mental…
My honest opinion is that the RS4/RS5 will break the 130 mark and the S4 will be mid 120’s on pump high 120’s on race.
^^ Bottom line, Pete. The RS5 will be the champ of the 1740 group when all is said and done (R8 excluded lol).
RS5 might actually outperform the R8 because of the dual clutch that was never offered in the R8 V8
who knows. 10.anything takes about 550-575 whp in cars this heavy. That’s a stretch.
If these 1740 kit cars can trap 125 like the other rs4 kits, that will be a huge win for apr because lots of people like apr for being cozy and familiar. If you’re giving up only 10-20 whp and a tenth… APR will win lots of the business over jhm and aviva and tts.
Wonder if tts will have a supercharger for the rs5. Their r8 4.2 kit looks bonkers. Twin blowers.
But R8 V8 is a lot lighter than RS5, no?
maybe 250 lbs
R8 4.2 now has Dsg too doesn’t it?
You’re right. 2013 R8 has a DSG option. Fuck that is so awesome.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2013-audi-r8-first-drive-review
I’m really thinking of getting a couple-year old RS5 sometime down the road. Then immediately adding the 1740. I just can’t think of another car I would want for the money. And yes, if I had moar, I’d be in Prime’s situation looking for an R8 V10.
According to Audi’s shitty website the RS5 curb weight is 4,009 lbs and the R8 V10+'s curb weight is 3605 lbs.
So the new V8 R8 is probably 100-150 pounds lighter than the V10+.
That is a big difference to me.
not sure how accurate
Use car magazines where they actually weigh the cars rather than spec sheets for cars with who knows what options.
I would bet
Rs5 3950
R8 4.2 3700
Coke?
^^ I’ll bet a coke for sure. Weight differential between R8 and RS5 is greater than 250lbs.
I’ll take an over and under bet.
The RS5 is over 3950.
And
The V8 R8 is under 3700.
My dads RS4 at Englishtown with him in it was 4,029lbs with a 1/4 tank of gas. His S4 with a 1/4 tank of gas was 4,180lbs. I would have to say the RS5 has gotta be over 4k… The R8 i’ve seen some numbers as high as 3700lbs.
That is epic.
I wouldn’t mind a 6MT R8 V8 with an APR Blower on it as my next car 