Ask me anything about my AMD LP/HP kit.

[Auditude3.0T]

330’ to 1320’ is technically ~70-120 roll race.

I complete the 330-1320 in 6.94s
He completes the 330-1320 in 6.81s

From 660-1320 I’m gaining 24.06MPH
From 660-1320 he’s gaining 24.69MPH

Basically same gearing and both manuals in similar conditions at same track and same lane. Both on pump 93 full steet trim.

[sakimano]

Just so you know there are 4-5 B8’s in the 11’s on pump. One of those being my manual car. There are also some B8 S4s trapping 119 plus, one of those also being my manual car. So there will be no destroying of a B8 in ‘steet trim’ as you so elegently put it above.

The only B8s that, on pump gas in a roll race, will be able to keep up with Kryptonik’s car as it ran Sunday, are 4.2 B8 S5s with superchargers.

The 3.0T guys are all trapping 116 or less on pump gas.

A roll race is an HP race. It won’t be close. It won’t be many buslengths…but it will be 2-3 car lengths for Dave’s RS4. If you guys run from 50 MPH to 125 MPH, it will be about 4-6 car lengths.

With the way his car was running Sunday, he is not putting 4-6 cars on me from 50-125. I am more than happy to meet up and do a run. We have a good local spot if he wanted to come out I’ll even buy dinner at my place and we can go out for some runs.

If you look at my best run in my B8.5 on 93 v. Dave’s best run from Sunday you’ll be surprised…

DA was -151 and temp 59 for my run. Same track and same lane as Dave.

Are you going to run out gas? Because if you are, you’re going to lose. Unless he misses gear changes.

[Auditude3.0T]

Just so you know there are 4-5 B8’s in the 11’s on pump. One of those being my manual car. There are also some B8 S4s trapping 119 plus, one of those also being my manual car. So there will be no destroying of a B8 in ‘steet trim’ as you so elegently put it above.

The only B8s that, on pump gas in a roll race, will be able to keep up with Kryptonik’s car as it ran Sunday, are 4.2 B8 S5s with superchargers.

The 3.0T guys are all trapping 116 or less on pump gas.

A roll race is an HP race. It won’t be close. It won’t be many buslengths…but it will be 2-3 car lengths for Dave’s RS4. If you guys run from 50 MPH to 125 MPH, it will be about 4-6 car lengths.

With the way his car was running Sunday, he is not putting 4-6 cars on me from 50-125. I am more than happy to meet up and do a run. We have a good local spot if he wanted to come out I’ll even buy dinner at my place and we can go out for some runs.

If you look at my best run in my B8.5 on 93 v. Dave’s best run from Sunday you’ll be surprised…

DA was -151 and temp 59 for my run. Same track and same lane as Dave.

Are you going to run out gas? Because if you are, you’re going to lose. Unless he misses gear changes.

What do you mean?

[euroswagr]

Who cares…fuck. GO race him on pump and get it over with.

[Auditude3.0T]

Who cares…fuck. GO race him on pump and get it over with.

That’s what I want to do, lol…

I just hate the fact that appatently based on those two time slips he will pull on me 6 cars.

[sakimano]

yes, pretty close point to point from 0-115. Truth is though his car is faster at every point on the track. Point to point is an ET race. But a roll race from 50 MPH to the top of 4th gear is very different.

Your car does well on ET vs. his…but again that’s not what a 50-125 race is about. Here’s why your car does so well on ET with 50 whp less power…

1. you’re a better shifter. In the video you can hear that he makes what he thinks are quick shifts…but they are not what you and I might consider quick shifts. SO you’ll pick up some ET and MPH there for sure. Getting more out of your car than he is, so to speak. When you have 3 shifts in the 1/4 mile including the crucial momentum maintaining 1-2 shift, that’s going to really show up on the timeslip. I would submit that you’d be able to crack off an 11.75 @ 120 in his car.

2. you’re a better launcher. You ahve more experience. Dave has, I think, 10 dragstrip passes under his belt (that I know of). You have…well, more than 10 lol

Those three things are pretty signficant…and make the apparent difference between your cars seem smaller than it is.

Now let’s look at a roll race. He will have to shift maybe once if he starts in 3rd…and 2x if he starts in 2nd. HE will be in 3rd for about 3 seconds if that’s where you start, and then he will be in 4th for about 5-7 seconds. All the damage a slow 1-2 shift does is gone because he’s not even going to be in 1st. All the momentum your better shifting gets you from the 1-2 is gone. Same goes for 2-3.

You’re comparing your best pass out of what…30 on pump gas? To his best out of 2. Let’s compare your 10th or 15th best pass…bet you have a couple where you trapped 114 and ran 12.15. That’s a couple of buslengths…and that’s just the 1/4 mile. A highway pull of a 119-120 mph car vs. a 114 mph car is a big gap. In fact, watch this video if you want to see what 113 vs. 119 looks like…ugly.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIzA5oHBY1Q

If his car traps 119 on pump gas when he’s shifting that slow, and your car traps 115-116 on pump gas with you shifting that fast, that 3 mph difference that doesn’t seem so signficant will widen out considerably on the highway.

I’m just guessing though. No need to cry about it…you seem really bent out of shape. It’s just fucking phsyics. If his car is making 400-420 whp (conservative) and you’re making 360, guess what…you’re going to lose on the dyno, and if you do a long 1 or 2 gear pull, you’re going to lose there too. What’s the big deal?

p.s. even on ET, from the 330, which is right around the start of 3rd gear, to the 1320, which is half way through fourth gear (with 10 mph to go till redline) you lost 0.12 seconds to his car…which is around 1.5 car lengths alone. Remember where I said a short roll race you’d lose by around Let’s eliminate a gear change, and let’s extend the race another 300 feet…that gap will get wider.

http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k387/peterglykos/Mobile%20Uploads/66EAB568-855B-48AC-BEFC-388EAF33B32A_zpskrjgs0ha.jpg

[Auditude3.0T]

yes, pretty close point to point from 0-115. Truth is though his car is faster at every point on the track. Point to point is an ET race. But a roll race from 50 MPH to the top of 4th gear is very different.

Your car does well on ET vs. his…but again that’s not what a 50-125 race is about. Here’s why your car does so well on ET with 50 whp less power…

1. you’re a better shifter. In the video you can hear that he makes what he thinks are quick shifts…but they are not what you and I might consider quick shifts. SO you’ll pick up some ET and MPH there for sure. Getting more out of your car than he is, so to speak. When you have 3 shifts in the 1/4 mile including the crucial momentum maintaining 1-2 shift, that’s going to really show up on the timeslip. I would submit that you’d be able to crack off an 11.75 @ 120 in his car.

2. you’re a better launcher. You ahve more experience. Dave has, I think, 10 dragstrip passes under his belt (that I know of). You have…well, more than 10 lol

Those three things are pretty signficant…and make the apparent difference between your cars seem smaller than it is.

Now let’s look at a roll race. He will have to shift maybe once if he starts in 3rd…and 2x if he starts in 2nd. HE will be in 3rd for about 3 seconds if that’s where you start, and then he will be in 4th for about 5-7 seconds. All the damage a slow 1-2 shift does is gone because he’s not even going to be in 1st. All the momentum your better shifting gets you from the 1-2 is gone. Same goes for 2-3.

You’re comparing your best pass out of what…30 on pump gas? To his best out of 2. Let’s compare your 10th or 15th best pass…bet you have a couple where you trapped 114 and ran 12.15. That’s a couple of buslengths…and that’s just the 1/4 mile. A highway pull of a 119-120 mph car vs. a 114 mph car is a big gap. In fact, watch this video if you want to see what 113 vs. 119 looks like…ugly.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIzA5oHBY1Q

If his car traps 119 on pump gas when he’s shifting that slow, and your car traps 115-116 on pump gas with you shifting that fast, that 3 mph difference that doesn’t seem so signficant will widen out considerably on the highway.

I’m just guessing though. No need to cry about it…you seem really bent out of shape. It’s just fucking phsyics. If his car is making 400-420 whp (conservative) and you’re making 360, guess what…you’re going to lose on the dyno, and if you do a long 1 or 2 gear pull, you’re going to lose there too. What’s the big deal?

p.s. even on ET, from the 330, which is right around the start of 3rd gear, to the 1320, which is half way through fourth gear (with 10 mph to go till redline) you lost 0.12 seconds to his car…which is around 1.5 car lengths alone. Remember where I said a short roll race you’d lose by around Let’s eliminate a gear change, and let’s extend the race another 300 feet…that gap will get wider.

http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k387/peterglykos/Mobile%20Uploads/66EAB568-855B-48AC-BEFC-388EAF33B32A_zpskrjgs0ha.jpg

Honestly there’s no argument for that. You are the master. Serious like a 1/4 mile scientist.

[euroswagr]

Every time Saki makes a post I think of Marshall on “How I met your mother”

…and I think “Boom… lawyered” in my head

http://youtu.be/4GcgS79_TR0

[KryptoniK]

I know there’s bad blood between AR and AMD (I don’t really care for Jason@AMD either solely based on his forum behaviour) and I know there’s bad blood between AR and Kryptonic (and especially one person in particular) due to past behaviours related to PES BUT, I feek like Kryptonic is trying to be more open about his AMD kit.

He offered information about sending logs to AMD and said (Auditude confirmed) that he was good to run. Based on Auditude’s post, Kryptonic never used the word flawless. That was an interpretation and although we’re talking about semantics, words are all we have to work with on forums right?

Now, I may not agree with AMD’s kit or tactics (a lot of it is akin to Fox News type behaviour such as asking a bs question to create doubt or to try and spread a rumour without someone coming back and saying they outright lied by hiding behind the fact that they simply posed a question) but I get the feeling Kryptonic is trying to be more open this time around.

Unfortunately, trust is hard earned the first time around, and nearly impossible to earn back a second time around after it was burned the first time. So Kryptonic, you have to understand some people’s reactions (to both you and to AMD).

All I can say is keep reporting information as it comes, stay away from making comments about other people’s cars where your own knowledge might be a little lacking, and don’t get yourself wrapped up in debates and arguments. If someone disses AMD (like I just did), just let it go. Your timeslips and continuing factual disclosures will speak for themselves.

We will most likely continue to bash AMD and Jason for the time being as we have zero faith in him but just ignore it for now. Try and get your issues sorted out, keep going to the track (at the very least for yourself and your own peace of mind) and keep reporting data.

If one day, you get everything sorted out and run some really good times and trap speeds as per expectations and you keep doing so without a blown engine 6 months to a year later, then it’s possible some views may change. (not saying it’s guaranteed it will but it might). Views on Jason himself however will never change but there’s nothing you can do about that as Jason himself managed that all on his own with his own behaviour.

So in summary, don’t get immersed in debates, keep reporting facts, only answer factual questions and maybe, just maybe, one day, some biases of the kit might slightly change. (Just don’t expect it to happen overnight as the kit has a huge hole to dig out of and don’t ever expect views to change about Jason himself. Those will forever remain the same).

At least that’s my personal opinion. Probably not Justin’s though lol

Axel,

Thanks for this post and giving me some insight on things going around here. I understand there is history between people here and companies that aren’t looked highly upon here although I’ve never looked past the RS4 realm to know where past angst comes from. With that said I always keep an open mind and try to stay neutral because I know there are always 2 sides to stories and things aren’t the way they are for no reason at all.

Appreciate the encouragement to keep posting data and I will continue to do so, good or bad. I know there is nothing I can do or say to change people’s minds about me, it saddens me that people have me figured out wrong on here because I truly am an honest down to earth guy that just wants to simply share this passion with other enthusiasts. With that said I’m not going to argue or try to change anyone’s mind about me, you said it best… trust has to be earned… only time will tell. Hopefully you guys will see me for who I really am and it’s not a liar (although possible to forget things I’ve said in the past, not intentional), not a person with an agenda or hidden goal to prove a point to favor a company I’ve spent money with, not a person to put someone down for whatever mod choices or performance status they’re at.

I do try to stay away from debates unless I know I can be factual with neutral data… probably why I don’t post much lately since debates turn south no matter what forum you go to and who posts. I’ll keep you guys updated!

[KryptoniK]

All I can add is that Kryptonik said his car had issues with hardware or software from the start, he wasn’t sure.

I mentioned this on AZ and got called a liar by KMD. They said there was an upgraded part that needed installed, no tune issue to speak of and that I should stop talking about their customer.

I then mentioned the upgraded harware that needed installed a few days later and KMD jumped in to call me a liar once again. (Pretty funny considering I used QUOTES) They then said that they were assuming that was the issue before they actually had the car and that in the end everything was fine.

[quote=KMDtuning]It turned out there was nothing wrong with the kit. Any concern our customer had has been resolved, quickly.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/621239-B7-RS4-serpentine-belt-wear-APR-SC?p=10203267&viewfull=1#post10203267

This was 2 days before the dragstrip visit.

Now Kryptonik still thinks there are issues and I think everyone here on AR would agree.

I think you have two things to do, possibly 3

1. Drop KMD, because they aren’t ever going to help you out…they are obviously fucking CLUELESS
2. Call AMD and demand that they resolve your issue…if not
3. Order the JHM kit…lol
   [/quote]
   I can’t speak for KMD regarding that, but I will say that if there is a company I will defend, it is KMD. They’ve been amazing to me through out all the work I’ve done when I had my B7 S4 and now RS4 and through that have developed personal friendships with them. They’re great people and am sure they didn’t mean to offend your credibility. I think they were just misunderstanding a few details regarding my progress with the supercharger and didn’t realize it.

KMD installed the kit and did not develop it.

As stated throughout this thread AMD is aware of the issue and they’re actively working on it.

[KryptoniK]

• AMD HP supercharger kit
• JHM Trio shift kit, LWFW stage 4 clutch, full cat-less exhaust
• HRE M40 19x9.5 w/ 275/30/19 RE-11
• Stasis MS coilovers
• Hotchkis rear sway bar
• Stoptech Trophy BBK all 4s
• OEM euro sport seats (saved 50 lbs)
• OEM battery
• Carbon clean done 5K miles ago (FWIW)
• 1/4 tank of gas, 93 pump.
• Car weight at the track with 1/4 tank of gas (according to Raceway Park’s scale and no driver): 3,890 lbs. (with a full tank of gas my car weighs 3,970 lbs) Added to those weights, I’m at 160 lbs.

The second run I did 11.91 @ 119.34 after cooling down for 3 hours (we were all waiting for the other lanes to go ahead of us).

I don’t think it’s fair you say the S4 beat me by 4 car lengths, I wasn’t racing him at the green light… I was racing for my own time, he launched .8866 ahead of me. I don’t understand why you’re saying he destroyed me in other posts when I’m a street trim vehicle and he was (with all respect towards Tsivas and Auditude, not down playing your record time at all) set up with a race tune, race fuel, DSG trans and 1/4 mile tire/wheel setup and I ran a better MPH. So that means with my car underperforming as it is now, I will “destroy” any street trim B8 S4 on the road (running 91/93 oct and street tire/wheels, especially manuals over DSG).

1. how is your car same weight as stock? Do you have anything added in for weight like upgraded stereo stuff? You should be about 125 lbs lighter than stock. Exhaust, wheels, brakes, flywheel, seats should give you a big break, not zero. Are the motorsports heavier? Can’t figure it out.

2. It is definitely fair to say he beat you by 4 car lengths. He ran 11.5 you ran 11.9. You’re both going about 150 feet per second, and 4 tenths = 60 feet = 4 car lengths of our ~180" long cars. I was saying that assuming you left at the exact same moment and ignoreing his RT beit. In reality he beat you by many more than 4 car lengths if you include RT.

3. I agree he had track setup whereas you are DD setup. Definitely something to be considered. Wheels/tires which help (but aren’t drastic) and he had race gas/race tune (big help for him for about 3-4 tenths, 3-4 MPH). To be honest, I was assuming that he would do what he ran because we have seen 4 B8 S4 DSG cars run within a tenth or so and an MPH or so of that time. His car did not surprise. Yours did. If AMD’s kit is honest , you should have beaten him by about 4 car lengths, not the other way around. You should have out trapped him by 7 or 8 MPH, not tied him.

1. Dude I don’t get it either… my mouth dropped when I saw the scale.

I know these weight savings for sure:

• Sport seats -50 lbs
• HRE’s - 3 lbs (re-11 +3 lbs) = 0 change
• LWFW -13 lbs

Unsure weight savings:

• Cat-less DPs (I’m sure I saved quite a bit here with the removal of 4 cats)
• Cat back non res (maybe no savings?)
• Stasis MS (maybe no savings?)
• Stoptech trophy BBK (maybe no savings?) (although advertised as one of the lightest setups, I think they mean comparable to other brands same size etc. They are bigger rotors than stock in front, especially in the rear… plus the rear 4 pot caliper and single piston hand brake caliper vs the stock smaller diameter rotor and all in one single piston caliper)

Unsure weight additions:

• AMD HP (definitely added weight with the addition of the tvs 1900, FMHE (front mount heat exchanger), water pump, tubing, coolant, coolant filler reservoir)

I have no other weight adders like a sound system etc. Whatever weight I saved must have been reversed with the addition of the AMD HP kit. I remember when I weighed my PES kit (M90 w/ FMHE, water pump, tubing, coolant) was something like 50 lbs added. Makes sense.

2. Gotcha, didn’t know it could be deciphered like that, interesting to know!

3. Surprised me too.

[KryptoniK]

It’s still to early to say the advertised numbers were inflated. I really don’t think they were.

You shouldn’t bring up “I sure do hope his sweetheart deal was worth it” when I was offered the same deal from other companies. Whatever grudges you have with other companies, don’t transfer those to me please. I would never say something like that to anyone when the product they purchased is bringing up concerns.

JHM offered you almost nothing. They’ve confirmed this online. If one of their dealers wanted to give you a small discount and a free install so they could get another install under their belt, that’s another story…but that has nothing to do with JHM

JHM didn’t offer you a deal so that they could learn how the kit would do on a car running 93 octane. They did that on their own car. Two years ago.

I’m sorry I don’t mean to repeat that JHM offered me a deal as well. You are right it was Prime Motoring offering free installation, I still have the message saved. Now you have me second guessing myself regarding a discount, I’ll dig deeper into my message history and double check.

The point was that I was getting some sort of deal to go with JHM as well, weather the deal was direct from JHM or not, still a deal to push me to them. So I did not decide on the AMD kit simply because of a deal.

[KryptoniK]

I believe I’ll replicate the 126.X mph times the other HP kit owner did… that’s not denial, that’s expecting to achieve what’s been achieved.

To clarify for the forum, and for you it seems…WoodyRS4 donated his car for 2 years to AMD to develop the kit. His car WAS the test car. The time was run by AMD during testing.

His car went high 11s @ high teens (like you) in testing. That was the high pressure, big intercooler, 16 PSI kit.

Then they got a new tune from UM and went 11.36 @ 126. They pulled the rear seats (they admitted this) and the car was extremely loud so I’m not sure what was going on with the exhaust (other than it creating a smoke show so we couldn’t see if it had a catback on).

Makes me wonder if they put race gas and a race file on the car, ran 11.3 @ 126 (just beating TTS in the UK) and then sold customers the old tune.

I hope that’s not the case, we shall see soon enough.

I won’t be pulling any interior out that’s for sure. I’m just interested in knowing how my car is performing as I would drive it regularly.

[KryptoniK]

It’s upsetting more than anything…

Dave seemed like a real cool dude. All of a sudden my pops car is in full race mode and he’s gonna mop a B8 in steet trim. Lol

My dad drives his car to work everyday just how you saw it yesterday minus being on race gas. Not sure what’s so race trim about that.

The way your car sits, there’s obviously a problem. Your car is gorgeous and sounds great. I just can’t understand for the life of me why you chose AMD over JHM.

to be honest, he is a good dude, and there’s no disputing that. He may be clouded right now by what he spent his money on. This happens. Hell, this happened to him twice before. First with Milltek and REVO…then with PES. Both times he stood up and defended the stuff he owned, even though it performed poorly. Always happens.

His full milltek and REVO tuned RS4 went 13.0 @ 105…aka average for a STOCK RS4 with a good driver in good DA. $6,000 commitment…so he defended it, until he realised it was not that good when the JHM cars started running low 12s @ 112-113.

His PES RS4 with full milltek went 12.6 @ 110…aka slower than I went with just a used $2,000 JHM fullback. $15,000 commitment…so he defended it, until it was clear that he went the wrong way, and then relented and admitted it.

Now he bought the AMD big boost big blower kit for $14,000 or whatever it was. He said he didn’t want the JHM because they were still testing and he wanted a simple solution that was ‘proven and tested’ and he didn’t want to have his car down for updates or adjustments etc. Well now that’s happening to him with the AMD kit. He’s also running poorly as far as performance goes.

When you buy shit, it’s like you’re on that team. Like in sports days…your guy rams a guy’s face into the glass (hockey reference), and the ref kicks him out deservedly…you still freak out on the ref and back your guy up. You’re on the same team.

Same goes for buying your XYZ parts…or same goes for your B8 S4 vs. my RS4…we’re all passionate about the shit we have. Well, the competitive among us are.

I think Dave is having his vision a bit clouded by his purchase, but if AMD doesn’t sort his car out and he has indeed been lied to, he will eventually come around and roast AMD, like he did to PES.

Thanks Saki,

That was very well said, I think that is a very accurate analysis on my past positions and current.

Just hopeful for the best.

[KryptoniK]

Who cares…fuck. GO race him on pump and get it over with.

That’s what I want to do, lol…

I just hate the fact that appatently based on those two time slips he will pull on me 6 cars.

Pete I’m almost always up for some friendly pulls. I just want to make sure we both know that’s exactly what they are, friendly. I really never cared to race anyone to prove I might be faster (I guess because I’ve never been faster than anyone lol), I just enjoy the thrill and not to prove any points. If you’re faster or I’m faster it doesn’t matter to me.

Afterwards grab something to eat and drink and talk about our cars and how fast we were going lol.

[Auditude3.0T]

Who cares…fuck. GO race him on pump and get it over with.

That’s what I want to do, lol…

I just hate the fact that appatently based on those two time slips he will pull on me 6 cars.

Pete I’m almost always up for some friendly pulls. I just want to make sure we both know that’s exactly what they are, friendly. I really never cared to race anyone to prove I might be faster (I guess because I’ve never been faster than anyone lol), I just enjoy the thrill and not to prove any points. If you’re faster or I’m faster it doesn’t matter to me.

Afterwards grab something to eat and drink and talk about our cars and how fast we were going lol.

Sounds like a plan brotha! Yeah beleive me totally friendly… That’s the only way I run, for 100% fun and the thrill

[bangoman]

Yessss posts #134 and #135 are what we like to see. Bring GoPros to the race, it will be awesome to see. Just make sure you tell us what part of Mexico mmmkay

[sakimano]

Just so you know there are 4-5 B8’s in the 11’s on pump. One of those being my manual car. There are also some B8 S4s trapping 119 plus, one of those also being my manual car. So there will be no destroying of a B8 in ‘steet trim’ as you so elegently put it above.

The only B8s that, on pump gas in a roll race, will be able to keep up with Kryptonik’s car as it ran Sunday, are 4.2 B8 S5s with superchargers.

The 3.0T guys are all trapping 116 or less on pump gas.

A roll race is an HP race. It won’t be close. It won’t be many buslengths…but it will be 2-3 car lengths for Dave’s RS4. If you guys run from 50 MPH to 125 MPH, it will be about 4-6 car lengths.

With the way his car was running Sunday, he is not putting 4-6 cars on me from 50-125. I am more than happy to meet up and do a run. We have a good local spot if he wanted to come out I’ll even buy dinner at my place and we can go out for some runs.

If you look at my best run in my B8.5 on 93 v. Dave’s best run from Sunday you’ll be surprised…

DA was -151 and temp 59 for my run. Same track and same lane as Dave.

Are you going to run out gas? Because if you are, you’re going to lose. Unless he misses gear changes.

What do you mean?

Meant pump gas. Autocorrect

[sakimano]

If you guys race meet up where you’re both on empty and fill your tanks with 93 together so there’s no second guessing anyone.

[drob23]

Unsure weight savings:

• Stoptech trophy BBK (maybe no savings?) (although advertised as one of the lightest setups, I think they mean comparable to other brands same size etc. They are bigger rotors than stock in front, especially in the rear… plus the rear 4 pot caliper and single piston hand brake caliper vs the stock smaller diameter rotor and all in one single piston caliper)

I’m sure your stoptechs are lighter than stock. The 355mm ST-60 kit is 31 lbs vs stock at 41 lbs: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/422799-StopTech-ST-60-BBK-the-results

The RS5 OEM Front BBK weighs around 42lbs: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/409236-Deal-on-RS5-BBK?p=6256192&viewfull=1#post6256192

You have the trophy kit, which I assume will be a lighter monoblock forged caliper (as compared to the ST-60). Only difference is your front rotors are probably 380mm? Not sure how much that adds relative to the 355mm 2-piece rotors, probably not a ton because I bet the inner part of the iron ring (annulus) starts further out.

The rears should still be lighter even though the caliper is larger (mostly based on rotors), but that’s a guess. The 2 piece rotors with the Al inner hat are a great upgrade in terms of weight savings, love both my ST aeros in front and JHM rears.