B6 S4 vs. E92 M3

B6/7 S4/RS4
#1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24VSYzOzOhY

B6 S4: APR Stage 2 software (btw, does anyone know what this stage 2 is?)
Intake
APR Intake (making less power than stock intake box)
APR Downpipe
AWE catback

E92 M3 DCT: Exhaust

okay, so I have listed out the mods of each car as decribed in the video. the B6 is full of APR stuff. and no this is not my car, i know better than that lol. But heres the thing, I always thought the M3s were much faster than that. If this car could take down a M3 like that then what would a catless JHM tuned S4 do? Devours the M3? I mean if the APR tune is able to do what they do now, wonder what JHM tune is like…

man…i miss my S4. been away from the car for 8 months now and counting…

#2

weird video. Could be a driver in the M3 who is a bit…retarded? That’s all I can think of. DCT is idiot proof, but not retard proof. Nothing is.

#3

Terrible spot to be doing pulls… Way to many other cars around.

Also, the M3 looked loaded up with people. But even with a bunch of weight, it should have pulled on that S4. C&D managed a 12.4s@114 qtr mile in the E92 M3 DCT.

#4

Yeah…M3’s are mid-high 12 second cars STOCK.

That S4 might as well be stock lok. So 13.7

#5

lol was the m3 actually racing?

#6

Even thou I would love to see an S4 keep up with the e92 I really think these guys are a bunch of clowns!!! Both retarted!!!

#7

I don’t see a bolt-on S4 sans forced induction beating an e92 M3. I’ve done numerous pulls from 40 with a manual m3 and it was always a car length ahead of me. Never pulled away from me though. The S4 can keep up but it aint gonna win.

Horrible place to be racing in that vid.

#8

I agree with everyone about a bad place for some friendly pulls, also agree that the S4 had no business beating the M3. Thank god for shitty drivers

#9

Man, that APR tune must be AWESOME!

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#10

lol

Here’s what I posted for someone who asked about the APR tune on audiworld. The ‘charlie’ guy was saying tunes don’t do anything on NA cars thus not to bother.

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Charlie sounds like he has been listening to the guys who bought a GIAC or APR tune 5 years ago as well as exhausts that were a replica of stock, a.k.a. useless, like so many other 4.2 S4 owners. Those guys usually drive B8 S4s now, after ditching the 4.2 because it was not ‘tunable’. They just didn’t buy the right stuff. There are lots of them on Audiworld, so be careful.

My car went from 13.8 @ 101 mph in the quarter mile to 12.9 @ 107 mph…a fairly huge difference for any platform, forced induction or not. I had JHM 93 tune, 2.5" full JHM exhaust, JHM LW front rotors, JHM lw crank pulley, and JHM intake spacers. That’s about $3000 in parts…and I picked up the equivalent of 8-9 car lengths on a stock S4 in the quarter mile. My car would routinely put about a buslength on GIAC or APR tuned B6/7 S4s in pulls from 50-120.

Here’s some dyno info that I think you’ll find interesting. beemercers car was very similar to mine, but he also had the JHM intake manifold. Note that his car and Loucura’s car were JHM tuned…and note the difference between the 2 JHM cars with 2.5" fullback exhausts vs. the one APR car with APR full back exhaust (downpipes + catback). It’s GIGANTIC.

Stock - 264 whp/247 wtq
APR tune + APR 2.25" fullback = +7 WHP/-2 WTQ vs stock (!?!?)
JHM tune + Labree 2.5" fullback = +33 WHP / +34 WTQ vs. stock and + 26 whp/+36 WTQ vs. APR

I didn’t even mention beemercer’s numbers. Once he added the intake manifold, it was off the charts stronger up top than the other cars.

Also look at the other cars that were there…those JHM B6 S4s did VERY well.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/sakimano/dynodays-1.jpg