B8 S4 headers bank or bust?

B8 S4
#321

Ya I’m with Sak on this one. Lots of road course racers out there (instructors sitting passenger) who think they know everything while at the same time belittling the ONE TRUE MEASURE of car acceleration. By my estimate, this has been going on for years now. That is, until now . . . The B8 guys seem to know what’s up, in large part because of guys like primetime, Sak, and this entire site. The tide is shifting. 1/4 mile almost seems to be getting its due respect now. It’s great to see.

Edit: just to be clear, I know we have at least a few road course guys on here - e.g., PsYk - who do not at all fall within the quattrofail group we’re talking about. They legitimately enjoy taking their cars out to the HPDE events. More power to them. Like I said, if you’re willing to bear the cost, it’s an awesome time. Way more exciting than the 1/4 mile.

#322

Haha! Yeah, I definitely am not above hitting the strip. In fact, I was recently invited to go to a test and tune with not/well_armed. I would have happily gone if it wasn’t for the full day of meetings I had.

I went to the strip once and it is pretty daunting (didn’t know what I was doing - tines were horrible and it was a warm summer day). There’s more to it then hit the gas and go. Ron imparted a lot of his wisdom (and from further experimenting, it was concluded that LC bogs down on stage 2+ cars) and if there’s an opportunity to take the RS5 down, I will.

What gives me the high/buzz is powering out of a corner at the limit and the sport diff doing it’s magic on the road course.

#323

It would be great to see your rs5 at Pacific om a cold night.

Arin went 12.4 @ 111 I believe in their Apr car, bone stock in what I think was mediocre density altitude. That’s only 2 tenths and 2 mph what Wellarmed achieved with his 3.0t and tune, Catless headers, milltek catback, roc euro intake and lw wheels.

Go read our dragtimes tips thread for some insight to the little things that make all the difference.

#324

I’m beginning to realize that this group you’re referring to is mainly present on quattroworld. I don’t frequent that forum much because I never found much benefit from the content in the B8 section there.

On a side note, I noticed the button with a moving m (for marquee) and wanted to try it out. :slight_smile:

-Skid

#325

PsYk - try to hit up one of those TnT nights. Very curious to see how LC works on the RS5. As for the strip being daunting, it just takes a dozen or so passes to get comfortable. I remember my first time going - was intimidated and very nervous about doing something stupid. Happens to everyone.

#326

Somehow the nerds and pussies are the guys who take their cars to the road course, and don’t care about the numbers, and risk their expensive machinery on the road course.

To counterpoint: I’ve broken much more car at the drag strip than the road course.

#327

Crash?

#328

Lol no…

#329

I think there were three crashes at the one road course event I attended. Things can certainly go wrong in either setting, but I think the chances for something bad happening are greater at an HPDE than at the drag strip.

Not talking about mechanical issues.

#330

You were worried about crashing your S4?

#331

Of course I was concerned - it was my first time on a road course.

That’s kind of an odd question to ask - not really responsive to what I posted. I’m talking more in general.

#332

you didn’t read the thread as usual…just chimed in to argue with me. Your shit is tired.

what were your dragstrip problems? blown engine and trans problem? That’s hardly the dragstrip’s fault.

#333

I don’t like your pussy ass belittling those who do go to the road course. Just because you’re a pussy, Sak, don’t speak for others who do decide to go. That will never be tiring for me, calling your shit. Usually pussies like you shut up about things they are afraid of for good reason, it’s rare to see someone proud of it like you.

Cloch, 3 crashes at one event is really bad, in about 20 outings (in a car), I’ve only see a couple actually hit the wall/tires. I guess if I was worried about my car I wouldn’t go, either, but I haven’t met anyone at the track that said they were worried.

#334

I didn’t belittle ‘those who go to the road course’. I belittled a few of the annoying dorks and other people in this thread have seen exactly what I’m talking about.

You however choose to not read the thread and instead pick a fight. Useless.

If you can show me where I have ever said that everyone who goes to the road course is a pussy… Or anything, I would enjoy it. If you’d open your eyes you will see I was talking g about a small group of pious douchebags who think they’re special because they go to track days… And they shit all over measuring acceleration with the quarter mile.

Further, how am I afraid of the road course lol? You’re a psycho dude. I’ve been to the big track at mosport, but in other people’s cars. I can’t be bothered to take my daily driver there. Its a whole day affair, requires another set of wheels and tires and frankly it’s just not for me. Add in the fact that it’s boring u less you push your car… And then when you push your car there’s an element of risk it just doesn’t add up. I guess u don’t have any life insurance of size. If you ever do, they will ask you if you do any auto racing. Wonder why? To that end maybe you should keep up the road course events, and hit the cigs again.

I play 70 rounds of golf in a summer. That’s enough of a pastime for me.

P. S. If anyone is afraid of the road course or anything, it’s you. You’re not even allowed to take your fucking s4 to the strip let alone to the road course…since your wife won’t let you lol.

#335

Making fun of Neal was enough for me. Everything I read above screams pussy. Add in that you called me out specifically in a new thread about the S4 vs the RS4 at the road course, then spouted magazine times, then refused to come to the track makes you the ultimate pussy. Yes you’re a big talker, nothing more. Because I respect my wife when I handed her the S4 keys last summer is a good thing. Besides, I have more compelling rides to go in, and I’ve taken the S4 many times to know.

Golf your heart out buddy. To many, including myself and the people who created the drag strip in the first place, it was made for racing, not as a measure of performance. The times are incidental. BTW you sign the same waiver whether you’re lapping a road course or at the strip, not sure if you read before you sign.

#336

Jspazz, you really just went off the handle over nothing…are you sure you should stop smoking?

I’m not a road course guy, but I bet it is fun as hell and to each there own. At the same time though the diehard road race guys with instructors holding their hand try and ridicule the dragstrip. It’s usually after they fail at it. Unless your a professional driver getting paid, we are all doing road courses or 1/4 mile for fun or bragging rights. I don’t think either side should discredit the other, but I’ll just enjoy the argument.

#337

That’s the thing, there is no argument about the merit of the road course. NOBODY in this thread has talked down about it.

JSPAZZ on the other hand has tried to put words in my mouth, and is implying that because I won’t go to the road course with him (I wouldn’t go across the street with this guy so I don’t know why he thinks I will commit to a day with him) I am a pussy lol. Further, he thinks that because I called out his foolishness regarding the RS4 and its track capabilities (as usual, jspazz the RS4 hater spouts misinformation to help his ego and pump the tires of his beloved B8) I should therefore race him on a road course. This will ‘prove’ which car is faster. Yes, me being at two sponsored road course events vs the dirty little jspazz who lives and dies by his road course prowess so he can tell everyone on the forums how great he is at passing people in much more expensive cars. What a star! Yes, it would be fair to rest the reputation of the RS4 on me, rather than using the dozens and dozens of comparison lap times european magazines and television shows have orchestrated with professional drivers. See, when reason gets thrown out the window for an unrealistic test to support an ego driven theory, this is when you realise someone is tapping out intellectually.

The sheer idiocy of this little flea and his ideas makes me laugh, so I can’t wait to see his next reason to create an argument out of nothing. I could say that I believe the Maple Leafs won game 6 tonight, and he’d argue they didn’t and that the series is over. Just to try his best to be right.

The key to jspazz is to call him out, very publicly, when he is dead wrong and talking out of his ass. It makes him MENTAL. Love to watch the fireworks. He can’t be told he is wrong. Just can’t. He will change subject, invent things you never said, avoid questions, avoid facts, deny rationale comparison…all to preserve his fragile ego and avoid being wrong. It’s quite a show.

#338

“it was made for racing, not as a measure of performance.”

LOL! REALLY?

Drag strip is exactly a measure of performance, you and your cars! Three factors that affect the outcome of the race: reaction time, torque, and traction. Reaction time measures your performance, torque and traction measure your cars performance. 1/4 mile et. and mph is how you distinguish where you ranks.
If it wasn’t a measure of performance every car magazine wouldn’t use it every time they test a car.

#339

Sak, you specifically called out Neal as one of the “nerds and pussies” in your post who prefer the road course. Don’t deny.

You called me out in a dedicated thread, quoting me from an AZ post where I said the B7 RS4 isn’t any faster on the road course than the B8 S4. You said it isn’t true. When I called you out to prove it, you turned pussy. Don’t deny.

If it takes me to point out you’re the ultimate keyboard warrior, so be it.

#340

there it is…avoiding the completely BS claims made earlier, and rabbiting on about nothing. Later Jspazz.