Either way I think the thread got deleted? Shame.
Yup deleted.
[quote]Are you REALLY listening to him lol ?
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Some people are.
I think the goal of Joe’s post was to provide background information on a forum member. All information provided was in the public domain and therefor free to share with anyone. If you look at Joe’s posts for the last couple months Ben has something to say after about 75% of them mentioning JHM fanboy or something of that nature. Ben was put in his place. He’s an 18 year old who beats the crap out of the cars he drives not a mechanic or experienced enthusiast.
Now the community was provided context for the comments he has made and will make in the future.
That being said the JHM “pushback” in the forum community is starting to worry me a little. I think some are steered away from a good company because of this. I tell people to get a JHM tune, Apikol mounts, FI exhaust because I have good experience with those products. Many feel the same way and that leads members to defend any of those products when someone infers they are substandard. So much so that some who defend JHM or give information on their products is deemed as a “JHM fanboy”. That is slander. Whether it is intended or not, it discredits any supporting information or experience provided by that member.
well said above^^^. duud doesn’t seem to understand that not everyone is as bright as him…not everyone knows what is truth or what is bullshit. Take that thread for example.
The guy asked for JHM tune info for the RS4. He got some good feedback from guys with JHM tuning on other cars etc…and thought ‘cool’.
Then Ben posted his theory about his car. Suddenly the OP and a few others were ‘fuck this I’m not getting a JHM tune’.
Then Joe crossposted some background info on BenSTi and people went ‘oh…well that changes things’.
If Joe sits on his hands, and saves his energy, and doesn’t post that. If I do the same here…that thread with the fear mongering hangs out there and sullys JHM’s reputation…when it’s baseless.
FYI I contacted Ben last night and asked him ‘what info do you not want up on audirevolution?’. Basically all the info we have posted was from his flickr, so I figured he didn’t care who saw it. Turns out he doesn’t want his name/address/DOB out there, so I honoured that request and blocked it out on the ticket pic. He said he didn’t care about the rest of the stuff.
I also asked him about his motor failure. WHile his theory is an interesting one, I don’t think it adds up. His claim is the tune is too lean, causes knock on some cars, and caused catastrophic failure on his motor, with a heavily scored cylinder 5 (due to knock). That sounded odd. When we see scored cylinders, we usually see a whole bank scored. Rarely if ever is it one cylinder. Further, if he had a ‘catastrophic failure’, wouldn’t that have shown up on the tear down?
If it was knock, causing scored cylinders, it would have caused a bent rod or some piston damage. When Audi tore the engine down, if they had seen a bent rod, they would have told him ‘sorry Ben…you have to pay for this. Causes are either knock from running bad gas, knock from running a bad tune, or over-revving the engine. All 3 are your fault. Forged rods don’t fail on stock motors run properly’. Instead, they put a new engine in for free. That doesn’t sound right.
I think Audi pretty clearly saw the 1 scored cylinder, no damage to internals, and said ‘something (carbon?) got into the cylinder, got stuck up against the wall with the piston and scored it’.
iirc he was claiming it was a score on the piston not the cylinder wall, pinging/predetonation can cause issues with a single piston getting damaged… though a catastrophic failure from pinging in one cylinder/piston is normally from other issues. Airflow distribution uneveness being a primary one
are you sure? they said repeatedly in the quattrofail thread it was cylinder 5 being badly scored.
For those who may not know Singh had a terrible tune for the rs4, that when logged by an audizine member, proved to have changed almost nothing, and made the car no faster than a stock rs4. Not one rpm faster.
What jags singh WAS good at was money laundering…that is until he was caught smuggling a few hundred grand into the country hidden in some speakers lol
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Holy shit, way back when, I was about a day away from getting his tune for the S4 and for whatever reason (can’t remember exactly why) I never met up with his (rep) here in town that could flash my ECU and send me on my way. I’ll chalk that up to a solid case of divine intervention and just be glad I never wasted my money on his crap. Another case of patience being a virtue.
And that is some real interesting shit about his money laundering business. Wow.
wow i really enjoyed reading through this. good work again saki.
on a side note, the highest temp i ever saw on my rs4 was 276* but that was a legit hour of straight romping and high speed driving with an exotic car club haha
First off Ben said it was cylinder wall damage. Nothing tune related is going to cause that
Also the lean argument is pure stupid fuck. If the car goes lean the cylinder pressure drops off and there is less knock there is less power amd due to the fact that fuel is required to make power the lack of fuel would have just made the car run lame. Ben is ultra ignorant when it comes to tying to talk about cars let alone diagnose issues. The guys is so stupid his issues stem from him beating Tue miss out of the motor when the oil temps are that high who knows what the cylinder temps are amd its not it of the question to have pre ignition from the oem plugs at high temps add carbon. Into the mix and your playing with even more fire
End of story the lean argument is pure stupidly and a complete lack of automotive knowledge
Meh a bad tune CAN cause cylinder wall damage… If its bad enough... The point is : the ecu retard strategy is so aggressive that anytime you get a hint of ping it slashes up to 10 degrees ign advance. To get audible pinging is ... oh well unthink-able tbh. There is a function in the ecu programming that you can alter and the ecu wont cut ign timing advance anymore even if the engine grenades itself. I doubt jhm sell a tune to do that.
Quick addition :
The mechanism is : in between 1.08 and 0.75 (ish) lambda combustion takes place in what would be called normal circumstances. Over 1.08 (ish) you get lean. As you get lean the burn speed of the mixture in the cylinder increases to the point that it becomes detonation . Also , the superficial barrier created at the boundary of the cylinder (and heads and piston) surface tends to get breached and the super hot gases actually touch the cyl wall creating hot spots. You will get lower power out the crankshaft but not necessarily because the fuel/air mixture is releasing less energy .
Spelling might be off on a few words.
FWIW - forgetting Ben’s “story” the pinging issue was experienced with my car as well. It was certainly “audible.” Shell 93 was used - fully gutted OEM DP’s - was not bad gas etc. The pinging was real on my car. Any heavy throttle inputs above 4.5K and the pinging would begin. Ambient temps at night during a few tests I performed for CV were ~35F. I had some hardware issues - that popped up after the tune was flashed. (slightly worn valve guides, piston skirt out of spec and scored rod bearings). Assuming the new adjustments exploited the weak components of the motor. That is still surprising to me because it’s not like we strapped a blower on the motor. I’ll try and dig up some logs from my other PC. We never figured out what the issue was so I flashed back to stock.
Looking forward to JHM having access to the B7 RS4 tune again so that they can finish up the beta aspect and confidently release the final version(s).
Thus isn’t ment ti be insulting bundle you understand what you just wrote you lose power debtor fuel you don’t get hot spots on the wall the burn chamber is in the center of the piston. Lean conditions were not Ben issue for a damaged motire his lean conditions were a byproduct of failed components
Wonder how Ben will blame JHM for this one?
Pretty incredible how major-engine-problem prone he is…
[quote=BenSTi today on qw]So my Audi is acting like an Audi again
Had a slight oil leak from somewhere. Dealer just called and told me it is from the timing chain cover in the back of the motor. Engine and transmission need to come out and get separated. Wonderful. These parts were brand new on the new motor 15k miles ago.
Did get a very nice A4 Avant S-Line with 3k miles on it for a loaner 
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left over problems from the beta tune obviously LOL
Lok the tune blew his timing cover seal.
considering Audi tore down his engine and ruled his problem a single scored cylinder due to a chunk of carbon…and saw no evidence of damaged internals…yet ben STILL blames JHM with snide bitch like remarks in threads like this…
http://i48.tinypic.com/2u4hf7c.jpg
…it wouldn’t surprise me if he blamed them for this.
Are you guys trying to lure the QW “goon” squad back over here?
hahahahahaha
I don’t think so. They were more interested in this site when they could abuse the karma program due to the 1 karma action per hour. Now that this was changed to every 12 hrs before repeating a karma action, they’ve vanished. Pretty funny.
The post above was more of an interesting observation I made while surfing QW. Uncanny that Ben’s engine is being pulled again. If you factor in the engine that was pulled and replaced, plus the 4 engines he blew with Subaru, that’s 6 engine pulls in under 2 years for one guy. Must be a record.
I do find it funny that Ben thinks JHM’s tune killed his engine (despite what we know about him from page 1). If he believed it was the tune…he then lied to his dealership and defrauded Audi out of a warranty replacement engine. He quickly retraced all his forum posts blaming the tune back when the near $20,000 job was being done, and hid any mention of his tune. Today he is again defrauding Audi out of another engine pull job (sure to cost at least $5,000).
If he does believe that the tune was the cause of his problem, he is guilty of fraud. If he doesn’t believe that the tune caused his engine failure, and is just saying so to hurt a competitor to his new company, he is guilty of defamation (slanderous remarks made verbally to a number of people, and llibellous statements posted in writing online on various forums).
Either way, not a guy I’d want to be in business with.
Re: the timing cover.
I found out that when they replaced my heads, they could not re-use the original covers, there were new revised ones that they installed. I wonder if it’s one of those currently-buried-but-soon-to-beTSB’s if enough customers went it for the same leak?