Not sure if this affects things much… but apparently I was way off on my DA quote before
According to the actual ACSSA race report the for Greenfield Drag Way on the 26th, the DA was 2950
http://maritimeracers.proboards.com/thread/7255/2015-acssa-race-report-5
This came up after an argument about how slow the hellcat was at the track and someone told me the DA was just shy of 3000, I thought it was much lower and he sent me this link.
Live and learn I guess.
So it has been a while since I updated this thread, I have mostly been deciding what I want to do with the car and working.
I bought a huge garage last year (50’ x 40’) and ended up moving my stuff over there and storing the S4, then I went to vegas and got to drive the 488 GTB and Aventador which kind of ruined my life. Everything tastes like granola now and my s4 feels so slow lol
So much space for activities ! (or a hoist… which is in the near future)
Anyway, late last year I bought DSGreys old nitrous setup, and have yet to install it, partly due to no time between work/kids and partly due to not being decided if this is what I want now.
I am kind of torn about what I want to do; go nitrous and use my spare funds to drop more weight off the car with a carbon fibre hood/trunk (both my hood and trunk need a respray) and do other jobs like timing service, headers and etc.
But after vegas, and since the Canadian dollar started coming back up, I have been debating selling the nitrous and going with the blower for more power all the time.
Right now I am halfway $$$ wise to the blower, so its either commit to a timing kit/ headers and then grab the hood/trunk… or hold off on those items, sell the nitrous kit and wait a while longer to grab the blower. I estimate it will cost about $11K Canadian for the stage 1 blower landed after duty and taxes. :-\
I am horribly indecisive.
I am registered to get my Time Attack license in May, so I have to get some other things finished on the car that I was putting off. As well the first NSDRHA event is in May so I better get my ass in gear if I decide to keep the nitrous for this season.
I bought the 034 subframe mounts, and rear diff bushing inserts.
I also still need to adjust my coilovers as they are way to low and the car has a bit of reverse rake. I want to get the suspension balanced but I need the bushings done first.
One of my buddies who works at michelin got me a set of pilot sport cup 2’s with his free tire coupon,the plan is to run them on my RPF1 for the track and then use PSS on my daily wheels. The only hitch is, someone wants to buy my daily wheels now for a really good price… in that case I will just wait until the PSS are shot and then install the cup 2s
I also snagged these Corbeau pro fixed back seats for $400 (for the pair) from a local track S4, they weigh ~17 lbs a seat and have fixed bases right now which add another ~5 lbs, but still significant weight savings from the OEM seats. I won’t be running the harnesses because I don’t plan to put a cage in my car and a 4 point harness without a cage is retarded (plus won’t meet FIA rules). They won’t be a permanent fixture, I need my OEM seats recovered, these will due for the summer.
They are not the prettiest seats compared to the Carbon Profi Spa, but they are 1/3 the weight of an OEM seat, the price was right and they are great quality. I plan to dye the red fabric to black with RIT dye, I find the red a bit too much considering my car is also red.
I would spend the money towards headers and timing first before worrying about weight reduction with the hood and trunk. The power gains with the headers will def out weigh the weight reduction.
No matter which route you go for nitrous or blower, the headers will take more advantage with power than the weight savings youll get. I have a carbon hood, and the only reason I did was because I wrecked the car and it was the same cost for a new hood painted vs the carbon. I cant say I noticed any type of difference in the feel of the car, only appearance.
I just hit 60,000 kms this year, and everything is really quiet so I have been putting off doing the timing service. Headers are really appealing to me at this point, so I might just grab them for this season and wait out the blower another few months.
I wanted the carbon vented hood, partly because it would be functional for heat dissipation and it would cost nearly the same for the respray of my current hood and trunk.
Also does anyone know how to stop the headlights from fogging? I found the bi-xenon DIY but it doesn’t seem to be applicable to the regular xenons. I don’t really want to buy new headlights if I don’t have to.
Weight wise you can reduce weight if it makes the car more neutural but the headers would add way more benifit then the weight reduction would. Hood wise that isnt too bad and if you like the design and it wont get water into the car then I saw go for it.
As for the blower over the nitrous. For road racing the blower would be a little better. For all out acceleration the nitrous is the better choice for me. For road race JHM has the right blower as its incrimential per RPM so the power is managable and smooth through out the rev range.
The headers would be a nice addition for sure no matter what.
I kinda do a little bit of everything race wise, although last year I only managed to get to the drag strip.
I will be using the S4 for some road racing this year lapping days, and as said above I am going to attempt some time attack events with it at least just for fun. I also will be doing some local auto X.
Closer summer gets the greater my urge to get everything wrapped up.
Did you do your own nitrous install?
You cant go wrong with the game plan you have going on.
As for the nitrous install. Me and a buddy did it. It will take a long time just take your time and its not too bad. Just involved with electronic work
Thanks man.
I had some questions about the accumulator install, thankfully a local vette owner explained that one end of the accumulator is just a drain line in case of a leak on the unit, so I guess I just run that dump line out under the car?? He said that its common for LS owners to use the accumulators on their nitrous setups, I was having a hard time finding any instructions or examples of them online.
The previous shop that installed the kit originally had almost a complete harness built but it was a bit hard for me to trace the lines back because they wrapped it and had cut a few parts to remove it. I started mapping it out based on JHM instructions but it has been a bit slow because I needed to get a bunch of electrical fittings and connectors to patch where things had been cut to removed. Also there is some aftermarket kit in there that doesn’t match JHM instructions so that has been confusing lol.
Im about to pull the nitrous tanks apart to check for syphons and their orientation, I noticed on Dans setup RSW put the tank sideways so it would mount in the spare tire well. I want to make sure that if the previous shop changed the syphon position, I will orient it back to how it would be in a basic trunk mount.
Hope to have it all sorted soon.
Also picking up another long block from my buddy this week for a spare and it will be prepped for donation just in case. Its going to Armstrongs ( a local engine shop) for inspection to see where we should go from there.
The accumulator goes between the fuel feed and the fuel rail. The job of the accumulator is to store fuel so when you go WOT and activate the nitrous there is no starvation. The accumulator emptys quite a bit every time you spray the car on the initial hit. This is the same thing the LS guys go through with there non return fuel system NOS cars. So make sure the accumulator is in properly and working as thats your life line.
The funny thing is for years I would read threads on the other website about some random guys saying how the JHM nitrous kit was too much money and there were going to just build there own. Well one the JHM plate system is just fucking unbeatable due to the even feeding of nos and fuel into each cylinder but more then that is stuff like the accumulator that I never talked about. I used to laugh at these guys and there shit talking. Only to wait a few months and hear they blew there motors or caused major damage. There is a reason why so many people enojy JHM and how they test and build stuff. A lot of times people try to tell you just how simple something is. Only to find out they dont know what they dont know.
On the bottle pick up. See if you have a floating style. If you do you can put your bottle any way you want other then backwards
The plates alone make the kit 100x better honestly. For the amount of money to just buy the kit that works, it isn’t worth the time and piecing together a kit to MAKE work
Very true.
The kit is very high quality and there is a lot of value considering the quality of the components. I realized recently that I could actually make money parting the kit out locally compared to trying to sell it for $2k on Audizine.
They really did pick good hardware, the noids are nitrous outlet, the accumulator is Bosche, the tanks and other equipment are all high quality, the kit is well developed and the safety components help.
I was just lost on how the accumulator installed because there are zero instructions online. I was trying to figure out where the other hose went on the backend of the accumulator finally a vette guy explains that it’s like a leak tube and that the accumulator was a spring loaded reservoir to prevent leaning out when you initially spray, he said it’s a sign that someone put a lot of development into the kit. Also the plates are really impressive.
I am halfway fundwise to the blower, a local shop is going to bring it in for me as he can save me $800 on shipping and brokerage. I have not decided what I will do with the nitrous after that, but a local cobra owner wants the controller, all the tanks and noids for a project he is doing, so I might just sell off parts of it to recoup on the blower.
Not to many people are interested in nitrous these days outside of the domestics and drag communities, there is a stigma associated with it, I blame fast and furious.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BFxHBE3PuVt/
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f202/sewermonsterBW/thumbnail_DSC_0322_zpsxfaa9j78.jpg
So I took my car to the local track this weekend for the high performance driving. AMP is a very dynamic track with a lot of turns in its 1.7 mile stretch, and a lot of elevation changes with blind crests.
Some amazing cars were there for the day including a 458 Italia, a gaggle of 911’s and even one of the new Caymen GT4’s. It had rain in the morning session but it was so light that it didn’t affect my lap times that much. When it dried up, I had endless amounts of traction.
I have a lot of footage from the day, but this footage chasing a 458 in the wet is the highlight. Sorry for wind noise and water drops, it was dryish when I mounted the go pro to the roof. This was a TA/Lapping class so passing is point by, the B8 S5 held me up on the first lap. I know most of you don’t care as this isn’t drag racing, but I held my own against E90 M3’s, brand new S4’s/S5’s and even a 330 AWHP STI ( I actually was able to out run him on the straights!). When everything dried up, I had some serious trap speed bumps, I was hitting 180km/hr on our back stretch.
This is the track for reference
http://armsinc.ca/_CTAC2015/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/AMP-Map.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads24/AMP+with+distances1427517856.jpg
I had the suspension setup by a local race shop called ISI, here are the corner weights. Car handled amazing.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f202/sewermonsterBW/IMG_8255_zpspxorrv9z.jpg
Wow fun video. Your car really pulls. very impressive. Fun video great driving on your part.
Thanks!
Its an extremely technical track, a lot of challenging corners and lots of blind crests which makes it even more difficult with the rapid elevation changes, especially considering the speeds you hit on the straights.
The S4 is really a lot of car to move around but it actually is surprisingly fast even compared to newer performance cars.
The S4 didn’t have any weight reduction, I actually had someone in the passenger seat as well.
I have some more videos, but I posted the 458 chase because I wanted to show that despite people saying the old S4’s are straight line cars…, they are wrong. You just need to invest time into setting up a suspension properly, vs just throwing on coilovers and a bunch of 034 gear and measuring fender to ground. Corner weighting does make it sit a bit goofy, but I don’t care, I smoked brand new S5’s and Stang GT’s. Also the ECS brakes and EBC red stuff pads, with ECS stainless lines… worked flawlessly. I had zero brake fade all day, the car just worked and worked. The S5’s pads literally were smoking for 10 min in the parking lot, dummy left his e-brake on and boiled his fluid to the point his pedal was a sponge. The brand new Civic SI his pads were shot by lunch and they were smoking like crazy.
First day of drag racing is tomorrow, I won’t make it do to work obligations though. I have most of the nitrous kit done, just waiting on the spark plugs which are a bitch to find.
I cant agree more. Im impressed with the S4 once JHM modded the acceleration is very impressive and helps keep the car fun and fast even with the newer cars.
The suspension comments as well. I love the stock suspension and when you give the car what it needs and dont just throw stuff at it the car is very well ballanced and I find sticks very well. The car just a few simple suspension updates helps keep that ballance and it really gives the car a confident feel. Lots of people like to go really deep with too many suspension add ons. I felt like less was more with the car.
We used to yell this at trolls for years. Its not about just parts its about the right parts and the formula. The formula for performance and balance.
So updates!
Had a pre track day BBQ with some of my buddies. (Yes that is a 934 and it is amazing, D-Zug tuned 500+ whp track monster).
Finally tore down the spare block that Andrew sold me from the dude on the FB group for B6 S4 owners that had a HG failure. Needless to say his engine that had “some knock”… well it was knocking on heavens door. Amazingly the block didn’t split and the heads appear to be ok. I posted a photo of the cylinder with the worst of the damage, most cylinders are actually decent, but my PB account is being a dick today.
The block and heads are going to Armstrongs for some “work”
Added some more workspace to my shop which has been helpful
Even a spare mattress for when I am all out of fucks to give lol
Also installed the Corbeau seats, currently removed rear seats for harness brackets and nitrous install.
Forgot to mention, I ordered the JHM blower from Dave at CO Motorsports so I will be selling the nitrous kit! if anyone is interested let me know.
I made a harness for it that allows it to plug in easily which simplifies the install and saves a ton of time. The kit is complete includes new spark plugs and switches and new intake manifold gaskets
$1900 shipped for the JHM components.
( Im keeping the carbon tank and billet mount for my other project.)
Damn you’re going full retard on us, I like I like it a lot!!! Are we gonna have a new fastest B6 S4 soon and it’s red again hehe
This was a WOW ride. First from the piston and rod that should have chopped the block in half that just after a few cool car shots and then the big blower news. Very cool. Good for you one of the best mods you can do for the car. well other then the nos kit… I wont consider you a trader for selling it. I thought we were brothers in nos but the truth is the JHM supercharger kit is pretty awesome and its got a ton of power and even more head room.
I’m going to run the nitrous for one event, see if I can get into that record territory 
Thanks for the kind words gents!
I was amazed at how little damage there was to the block! The head is mint as well, the piston came right out so I don’t know how that happens without damage. The shop said there is a small POI damage at the bottom of the cylinder but when they sleeve the block it won’t be an issue.
I have both corbeaus in and the harnesses mounted I will install the rear seats so nobody calls me a cheater when I try and get on that list