Coyote/Wolf = Coywolf

General Discussion
#1

We have coyotes here literally all over. It’s weird because I never saw them at all as a kid. Now I see them or hear about sightings on a weekly basis.

I’m not talking in the country…I’m talking residential areas, and even dense parts of Toronto. Pretty crazy. The thing is, we don’t just have the skinny little fuckers like they do in most of North America. Our coyotes are actually a hybrid of a coyote and a wolf, the Algonquin Park wolf specifically. In fact that’s where these hybrids have come from, Algonquin. Wolf packs mated with coyotes and produced these ‘coywolfs’.

Anyway, here’s a few local photos I thought were interesting. No, they don’t just eat mice. They’re big! They hunt deer, dogs, just about anything they can get their mouths on. When there’s half a dozen of them, they’re pretty effective. They don’t actually kill the deer…they just grab on, drag him down, and eat him while he’s still alive. At my golf club last summer, a deer went bolting past 2 friends as they stood on a tee waiting to tee off. They noticed his stomach had a fairly massive hole in it and he was covered in blood. Then a second or two later, a large coyote sprinted after the deer at full speed. Pretty wild.

This was 15 minutes from Toronto, at a golf course in a dense reisdential neighbourhood, with a river valley running through it.

Here’s a video I took a few weeks ago of a coywolf about 10 minutes from my house. There were 2 of them. This one was bigger than my labrador retriever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-4rWWa_VHs

This one attacked a little girl in the town I live in. She was doing a snow angel and I guess the coywolf thought she was hurt and flailing so he thought she’d make an easy meal.

http://www.citynews.ca/files/2012/01/7f441b234074a95b759a22babc4e-473x315.jpg

this one was not far from my house at a local school

http://blu.stb.s-msn.com/i/86/E9349D42373FB67033548FD7C927AA.jpg

Here’s the remains of a large male deer that 3 coywolf hybrids ate and then left on a rural property not far away (this has happened on a couple of local golf courses in front of golfers…apparently tough to watch)

http://storage.canoe.ca/v1/blogs-prod-photos/7/5/d/5/3/75d539c78e3354e48906862aa1168c3d.jpg

here’s one in ‘the beach’ a neighbourhood in the city of Toronto. Very wolf like.

http://www.680news.com/files/2013/03/coyote.jpg

#2

There was an interesting episode of NATURE on PBS recently regarding the coywolf.

http://video.pbs.org/video/2365159966/

(53 minute episode, so not for casual viewing.)

#3

I think that was with David Suzuki, Canadian naturalist. Most of that footage was around here. Pretty cool.

#4

Definitely had Toronto footage. Really cool infrared video showing how coywolf would be right next to people at night, and they had no idea. My kids loved the episode.

I don’t see a credit for David Suzuki:

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/episodes/meet-the-coywolf/film-credits-meet-the-coywolf/8656/

#5

http://www.cbc.ca/player/Shows/Shows/The+Nature+of+Things/ID/2335216723/

#6

I love their look. Poor fuckers and being chased out of their natural habit by encroaching buildup of the suburbs.

OT, first photo is of an RCMP constable so maybe this shot was out West? There’s no RCMP in Ontario that I’m aware of, unless at the airports, border, etc.

#7

I concur. Never ending though. We will continue to do so then complain when top tier predators “ruin our way of life”. Lol

#8

First photo is a police officer in oakville. Halton regional police.


http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/sakimano/Screenshot_2014-03-19-08-23-19_zpsv2zyy8fg.png

#9

Oops, looked like the smaller RCMP shoulder flash in the first pic…

#10

Exhaust sounds good!

Interesting stuff, I was not aware of the coywolf. They seem like assholes. But look good.

#11

There was actually an adult jogger attacked by a pack of coyotes out here about 8 months ago. The guy got away with a few bites and scratches.

#12

Interesting. Same happened in Nova Scotia to a girl from Toronto. She was unfortunately eaten. Two large coywolf hybrids.

#13

She wasn’t literally eaten. She was attacked and subsequently succumbed to her injuries in a hospital. Very sad.

http://contrarian.ca/2009/10/27/a-shocking-coywolf-attack-in-cape-breton/

#14

no, she was eaten. Then people attempted to chased the 2 remaining coy-wolves away. One wouldn’t move. Then they shot one. Then they shot 5 others.

They didn’t attack her for fun. They attacked her, brought her down, and were eating her alive. They aren’t big enough to kill you by a bite to the neck or something Axel. Their m.o. for taking large prey is to literally bite your legs so you can’t walk/run and pull you to the ground, then immediately start eating through your abdomen, and up under the rib cage to your vital organs which are very nutrient rich. When there’s a couple of them, they tend to have one hold you by the face/snout (for deer etc) and the other goes to work on the abdomen. Wolves do this. African hunting dogs do this. It’s horrid to watch or think about.

That’s how she died. They would have continued feeding if they weren’t interrupted. I watched a documentary on the Mitchell attack a couple of years ago. It was pretty compelling.

Here, this should help:

[quote]On October 27, 2009, Mitchell was hiking alone during the afternoon on the Skyline Trail in the Cape Breton Highlands National Park in Nova Scotia. During her hike, she was attacked and fed on by three coyotes. During the attack, a group of four other hikers came across the scene, managed to scare the remaining coyote away and called 911. When emergency crews arrived, she was taken to a hospital in Cheticamp and then airlifted to Queen Elizabeth II Health Sciences Centre in Halifax in critical condition. She died overnight.

An officer with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) later shot a coyote in the park, though the officer could not find the carcass. In the evening, park staff located another coyote and killed it, though there were no signs on its carcass that it had been shot. It is estimated that there were five or six coyotes in that area of the park. Eventually, a total of six coyotes were killed following the attack, but only three could be conclusively linked with the attack by means of stomach contents.
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There were 2 VERY brazen animals that 2 guys hiking came across and took photos of. Those were the two who led the attack on Mitchell. One of them was the one that refused to leave the body even when a group of people came up and were throwing rocks etc. Thanks to the photo the one guy took, they were able to conclusively identify that these were 2 of the 6 that were killed, and sure enough some of her remains were found in their stomach.

#15

That’s painful just reading your description. Sounds like a good reason to liberalize the gun laws. Protection from humans may not be necessary, but those damn coyotes!

#16

ha

well they’ve killed one person that I have heard of, ever. More people are killed by pitbulls every month.

#17

And I do believe Canadians are allowed hunting weapons. Some of my friends have weapons when they go backwoods camping. Mostly due to bears but very applicable for wolves and any other dangerous animal.

#18

Eaten alive? Frightening thought.

Had a black bear ransack my campsite on the Appalachian trail (early '90s). I sealed and hung the food up high, but it obviously still had odor. The black bear (indigenous to Maryland) spent hours trying to knock the tree over to get at the food. Huff Huff Grunt Grunt [violent tree shaking]. Repeat. We had no weapons. Probably better that we didn’t, we just would have pissed the bear off.

#19

I’ve seen black bears a couple of times. They’re pretty terrified of us usually. They don’t do a lot of large animal hunting. Lots of scavenging, lots of veg (omnivorous after all) and then fish and small animals.

I wouldn’t fuck with one though.

We recently had one come right down to a suburb of Toronto about 100 miles farther south than they’re normally found. It was pretty crazy. He was a 400+lb black bear. Cops shot him.

#20

Yes - it is extremely rare for humans to be injured by black bears. Usually involves stupid people messing with cubs.

In my case, we all knew that the bear wasn’t THEORETICALLY dangerous to us. But that sucker was built like a small tank, and it was pitch black in the middle of a forest. Beating the crap out of that tree, and walking between our tents huffing… my wife was violently shaking with fear. She never went camping again, which really sucked because we used to enjoy it.

We joke about it now, but she really thought she was bear food. She refused to watch the Werner Herzog documentary (Grizzly Man).