Dual AFR controller

General Discussion
#1

Saturday I did a terrible job of reconnecting my wideband controller after replacing the sensor and ended up melting both the harness and sensor side connector against the exhaust. I can get a repair connector from ECS and a new wb02 sensor for about $150 total. The drawback is that it only monitors my passenger side bank, so I was looking into a new controller and ran across the Innovate DLG-1

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41bPoMwkjfL.jpg

I know a lot of people (at least the B5 guys) will tell me to just use ME7 logger, which I don’t like to drive around and stare at a laptop. Anybody on here have some experience with Innovate products, and if so, do you have a recommendation of what vendor to use?

#2

i ran an innovate single wideband before, they are good guages, but the problem i had was logging with it. The guage by itself didnt have an rpm input, so you cant log vs rpm on its own. I purchased the wifi unit which connected to the obd2 port that brought rpm into the logs.

The issue i ran into with this setup was i used ecux/me7logger also and wanted to combine the wideband info for the same run, but since the obd2 port was occupied i could only do one thing at a time.

I landed up selling the setup and going with a zeitronix as it had a separate rpm input and egt sensor and didnt tie up the obd port.

#3

Thank you so much, that was exactly what I was looking for. I was trying to figure out logging as well since I didn’t see any rpm pickup and basically it sounded like all logging would have to be time based.

#4

I just got done talking with Innovate about the issue above; I was told to daisy-chain the DLG-1 to the SSI-4 which will give the ability to log based upon RPM without having to be plugged in through the OBD port, just in case someone searches this thread in the future. Thanks for all the help and bringing the issues up that needed to be addressed.

#5

I wanted to complete this thread. I got the controller and gauge installed yesterday (in 100°+ weather). I used the podi gauge pod to mount the gauge on the steering column. All in all was a pretty simple install though it took me all day because I got ocd on the wiring. The functionality of the controller is pretty awesome. It has a free air calibration mode, 5 different gas modes (diesel, gas, cfg, propane, ethanol), the ability to datalog (though without the above module, it is time that is used on the x-axis instead of rpm) and most important, it shows both banks afr. Here is the completed project.

http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww254/m-tre/Mobile%20Uploads/20150613_173956_zpsqlqyong5.jpg

#6

That’s neat. Nice update

#7

Thank you. I had been monitoring just the passenger side bank so I was a little concerned that once I hooked in this new gauge and additional sensor, I would find something tragically wrong, I don’t want to jinx myself, so I will say that to this point, both banks are very close, if not identical to each other. Now I can comfortable up my boost without wondering about a/f’s (though I am sure I will find some other parameter that I need to monitor and worry about).

#8

It’s normal to worry about that but since you have a Jhm tune that didn’t turn off 1/2 the equipment that came with the car like EGT 02 and other sensors you should be fine. You will see a little change from side to side depending on how matched your injectors are and how well your 02s read. Another good thing that I think gets missed is that jhm uses match tested injectors. It coats them more momey but it assures your bank to bank reading are close.

Again good job

#9

Ya, that is a nice setup. I pretty much turned my mbc up to 25 and let it be. Tinkered some up and down based on ambient temps. I wasnt too worried as I was confident in the tunes safety parameters. But that is a nice back up and peace of mind. Cool stuff.

#10

If I could hook up an xray machine and scan the car while it is moving, I would, just for a peace of mind. I attempted myself to tune a few cars in my earlier days, neither one ran for very long (catastrophic failures), so it made me a little fanatical about monitoring engine parameters (especially under load), thank god the JHM tune gives me a piece of mind even when those gadgets go down.