If, as duud suggests, the tuner had dealt with those issues, wouldn’t it be fair that the results “should” be better? Seems like, based on that statement, from someone that knows what he’s talking about (at least that is my perception) that there is more opportunity with the car to be improved…but that isn’t anything Mick can do. JHM would have to evaluate the situation and see if they agree. Not saying it is an excuse, but just like you are concerned about consistency with weight, etc, it does seem possible that the tune isn’t maximizing the rest of the mods. Or maybe not. I sure as hell don’t know.
Really not trying to get in the middle of some sort of flame war. Just honest questions.
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Mick can’t drive, that has been proven. He did make bold claims of hoping to run a 12.0, but then he didn’t even come close so then the excuses came. Also, no one can argue that the nice little 1.79 60’ he pulled isn’t fully contributed to his JHM tune and the LA.
JHM tuned cars with JHM 2.75" exhausts have already gone 12.2X, so what point are you trying to make here?
Those cars were also much heavier than Micks, with an older version of the tune.
EBwerks exhaust was a close copy, until they changed things to make it not so much a copy…maybe those things affected the performance somehow.
I think this is more about Mick being a fool, but it also makes EBwerks look pretty bad considering he is one of the only people with their setup. The testing he has done has been very construed and he gets caught in lies on a weekly basis, so in actuality until they find someone else to test this exhaust for them they don’t have any credible information to stand behind.
…and if Saki busts into the 12.6Xs today completely stock, it’s going to make Mick’s 12.4 look real stupid considering the amount of mods and money he has into his car. He will also go into a 1/4 mile hater campaign because the RS4s aren’t 1/4 mile cars.
Jared I don’t think I would take duud’s comments too seriously. It was a suggestion he made but I think we will trust Jhms tuner on this one
Any way isn’t Mick getting epl tuned soon? Who cares what his tune does our doesn’t do in the interim.
Also I would expect him to trap about 111 to 112 , maybe 113. Depends though…you never know how a car will respond.
I am at the strip right now with a group of friends and one is an RS4 with stock everything other than Ecs hpipe for sound, and JHM intake spacers. He just trapped 111.
Jared at least you were smart enough not to jump on the benriquewerks bandwagon.
If I were in need of an exhaust there is no doubt I would just buy the JHM/FI exhaust once it came out.
Swapping exhaust for no performance gains seems a little foolish. Also, continuing to state the weight savings is a well…any exhaust w/o cats and resonators is going to weigh less than stock or even JHM or any other exhaust.
There has got to be someone that can drive Mick’s car better than him…if I were him to remove myself from the equation I would bring someone that could run the quarter mile better. For example, I am pretty certain my boy MMA could do a better job than I. Therefore, if I were trying to prove my car out I would let him get behind the wheel…plus he is lighter than me.
Something is wrong…either it is the driver or the setup of the car. If it is the car…that is a shame considering all the money that has been spent.
How many ways can you fuck up an exhaust? 2.75 is plenty to cover botched bends , cuts or welds .
And honestly increasing overlap gave me some more cfm and power.
But then again my car was hardly a daily driver anymore and my cel light became a permanent passenger.
The saving from it are minimal at best. If you swap a driver that weighs a little less than you, you should equate the differences. That is certainly not a selling point…well not significant enough for me at least.
Mick clearly does suck as a driver, I was expecting to see some sort of semi-modest gains out of it, didnt really expect to see superb results due to that really strange bend in the pipes prior to connecting to the mufflers and who knows how the mufflers are constructed.
enrique from benriqueWerks has posted some gains based on their exhaust
"Mick,
Can you post your time slips for both runs. I can look up the DA, that plays in a effect. We did a back to back dyno on Denis car, he gained 30awtq and 10 awhp, over stock, and that was with his car running extremely rich up top ( Ben later found something was stuck open, I forgot what).
LOL gotta wonder if they manipulated that dyno like mmmrs4 did…only thing that flies for most of us is the track figures (common sense, no?), and mick proved nothing so far
Thats why I like JHM, they provide real world numbers, IE 1/4 mile times with most of their big gain products. What other company promotes their products via track times? I cant think of many off the top of my head.
You cant manipulate the track times without lying about other mods…and mick would be the type to do that, we have plenty of evidence to substantiate that claim ;D
The larger diameter may help overcome a poor design but what’s the point of going 2.75" if you aren’t getting the most out of the larger tubing? Turbulence is bad mmmmmmK.
He’s doing it again…(acting crazy and telling lies)
LIE #1
[quote=crazy Mickf29]Wow I just find this hilarous
Saki he never mentions the fact his canadian spec RS4 is 100lbs lighter than US spec. He also touts “BONE STOCK” as his rally cry, but turns out he isn’t quite the same as a US Spec RS4. So while he runs around thumping his chest about how fast his car is, and how good he is at driving, turns out he is just taking advantage of a little looked into fact that in his own statements equals .1 seconds per 100lbs.
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No. there is no difference between US and CDN spec. CDN cars have the same bumper standards and safety standards as the US on these cars, because Canada doesn’t want to bother having their own entire testing agency when they can just piggyback on the US testing. Canadian cars had the same options too. Unfortunately this is why we don’t get the cool Audi avants (because we actually buy them up here…but they don’t sell them here because we’re a small market and require safety testing of cars that are not offered in America…therefore we don’t get em).
Only difference in weight would be attributed to the extra paint on the US speedo, which shows MPH and KPH while we only show KPH. So the difference is about 0.02 grams.
My car, for the record, weighed 1790 kilograms when I weighed it with a full tank. That’s about 3925 lbs on a scale that rounds to the nearest 5kg (11lbs). I weigh 245 lbs, which is, according to mick’s fantasy scale where he weighs 210, 35 lbs more than him (and likely more than any other RS4 owner other than baby huey over at ebdoesn’twork.
So he is dead set on that 100 lbs weight difference right…well what happens when someone asks him what the differences are that he is so sure of…
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I am not sure…
I was told a while back (like a year or more) that the Canada spec cars were slightly different, amounting to about 100lbs. if you also go to one spec site out there, it gives the range of 3650-3850 for canada spec cars. About 100 more than US spec at both ends of the spectrum.
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So he is not sure…it is info he was told…and it was over a year ago. What a retard. Once again, US and CDN weigh the same.
So much for that theory.
LIE #2
[quote=crazy Mickf29] Oh and another thing: there is a huge difference running 94 octane like Saki was running vs 91 or 92 octane with 10% ethanol like we have to here in the US.
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No. 94 octane Petro Canada fuel is at least 10% ethanol. He claimed it was zero. Then someone corrected him that we too have ethanol, and he claimed it was only 5%. He said their ethanol content level is 17%. Anyway, I dont think ethanol is hurting anything. In fact, its probably helping.
" Does Ultra 94 contain ethanol? Does Petro-Canada still offer an ethanol-free gasoline?
Ultra 94 contains ethanol. Due to the fact that various fuel grades are blended at the point of sale, most grades of Petro-Canada fuel may now contain up to 10% ethanol. This represents a change from the previous state, where premium fuel was ethanol-free at Petro-Canada."
They are all 10% here because ethanol gets boatloads of govt subsidies. Ironically the only gas in Canada that is ethanol free is Mick’s favorite…Shell v-power.
LIE # 3
No. Dan ran 12.29 last fall on 91 octane California shit gas and a very basic old ass JHM 91 tune. As we all know, JHM’s server situation has been fukt for a while, and Dan couldn’t even get the JHM 93 tune on his car in time to go to the strip. In fact, other than testing, Dan has never had that 93 tune because they don`t have 93 out there…always just the shitty 91 tune.
I just took a gander at Qfail…Mick is the most delusional person I have ever seen. Also the fact that he refers to the “tuner” instead of JHM irritates the shit out of me. I really hope he gets EPL tuned, loses LA, goes back to cutting 2.2 60’ times and runs some more shit times. Without LA I could see him barely being able to break 12.75, and we all know an EPL tune will not perform as good as JHM.
I think the reason he thought Dan ran 93 was based on the info Dan has on the Dragtimes site. It does say 93. I noticed that when he fist put it up there too. Weird.
In order for them to get a 93 mix, they need to go on 91 octane, then add in some race gas to get 93 levels of octane, then load the 93 file.
The reason I know he didn’t bother with this is two-fold
he didn’t have the 93 tune/couldn’t load the 93 tune so there would be no real huge benefit. It was a freezing cold November day (it was colder in California than it was in Toronto that day…I was at the strip the same day and ran in worse DA than Dan did. That was when I went 12.94)
he didn’t have any race gas to splash in, because the race gas people weren’t at the track that day. It was freezing cold as I said, and there was almost nobody there.
I was talking to Dan that day on blackberry messenger, and trust me…he was bitching CONSTANTLY about the VAST situation. He REALLY wanted to beat George lol. The three of us had an email chain that was RIFE with trash talk between the two. It was pretty hilarious.
Just pointing out that on DT’s site it said 93 which is where I’d assume Mick got his info. I remember Dan telling me the 91 vs. 93 tune difference and what it might have done for his trip down the strip. I know he ran 91 oct on the 91 file.
Well I brought it up ;D. I was inquiring about the difference between all RS4 tunes. It was quite a bit after his trip to the strip and I was calling to discuss a few things about logging etc.
He is getting desperate lol. He and Ben really seem to be hell bent on inventing something that makes the Canadian cars lighter than stock.
Its funny how they’re so focused on my quarter mile time. I guess its a method of distracting everyone from the ebwerks failure to deliver any delta…try to discredit me and my completely irrelevant stock time some how lol.
Of course Mistro’s run is bullshit too because of his lighter Canadian car.
If Sir Mick was told “a while back” that the CAN cars were lighter, why did he never mention it in the past? Doesn’t seem like the kind of guy who would keep that to himself, considering his quest for weight savings.
The guy has race seats and a harness…deleted his satellite radio to save two lbs…deleted his headlight washers to save another four pounds…yet the mysterious Canadian spec parts that shave a hundred pounds, he never bothered to look onto? Sure thing Mick.
He must be seriously feeling the pressure if he has resorted to making shit up about my car that has nothing to do with his shit runs and his $7,000 exhaust system swap that made him no faster than stock.
I don’t think you could have a better test of ebwrks exhaust than this one…and the result is fucking terrible.
