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that’s pretty neat
must be a shell. Surprised you weren’t bidding.
Also surprised Audi didn’t send a repo man to grab it before they sold it.
I think he got it for $22.5k. If that it is true I might try to buy an engine from him. Infer what you will about why the seller needed the cash that badly.
not sure they needed cash that badly…they just got rid of their old ass race car that they don’t need anymore. They killed their race team when they were insolvent last year and exchanged the entire equity position of the company to satisfy their debt obligations.
That new owner sold off all superfluous assets and fired something like half the staff (all mechanics, all service, all race team, many senior executives including the CEO and CFO, Keith Lucas who ran APR Europe, and that guy who was making their Chinese exhaust program that crew219 blew the cover off). I’m frankly surprised the S4 was still around
That’s a big loss for the B8 platform that APR couldn’t get any “race” products to market. I like Eurocode but it’s one dude.
I don’t think that was really APR’s MO even when they had the racing team(s). Sure, they used the platforms for development of tuning products, but I don’t ever recall APR offering true racing products outside of their normal offerings.
I’ll agree with Saki on this one. They likely had these cars/parts just sitting around for a couple of years, and decided it was time to sell them. I can’t imagine they are in more dire need of cash now than they were last year.
Pretty sure those cars have been out of the pwc for a while now. Pretty sure they claimed to run all their b8 products, tune/cps etc. I believe the last apr race car program was a mk6 gti or maybe the r8’s. Not sure if the r8’s were factory, or the rwd Audi customer racing ones.
We got the CPS from their development. Ugh. So the customers can test the new tune on the track?
The R8’s were the RWD “LMS” variants modified for the class they raced in.
No doubt the race car aided in development of consumer parts, but I know for sure their B8 S4 didn’t run most of their standard parts/offerings. It has a different cooling system than the CPS they sell, and didn’t run their standard exhaust, intake, or brake kits. My guess is the tune was also different than their standard offering which would mean the race car didn’t actually run a single product they offer to the masses.
Edit: Maybe it used their standard pulley? Not sure…
it’s one dude that apparently isn’t so trustworthy
according to a senior APR employee, EuroCode’s David Serabi helped APR steal REVO code from a customer’s car to help APR with their flash program. Pretty damning for both companies.
This was all alleged in the APR exposee thread.
And, actually, I see that they said they switched to a Bosch Motorsports ECU when they were “constantly” crashing the first B8 S4, so they weren’t even running the stock ECU at some point (it sounded like they had issues with the ABS/braking system).
Pretty sure the R8 was via Audi Sport Customer Racing:
http://www.audi-motorsport.com/de/en/gt-sport/teams.html
APR motorsports is still up:
http://www.aprmotorsport.com/
I would say I don’t know if that was apr MO you never heard about it. And i don’t know if in those class race how close to stock the car has to be.
22 k with 5 motors that’s a great deal for someone. It sucks to see them sell that but it’s good someone made out
I’ll say that my comment was main in ignorance, just following what guys on AZ seemed to be saying about APR back in the day (NWS4guy, Helix etc). But it’s been a while since the b8 S4 race program was discussed.
The TT-RS Audi customer racecar that 034 motorsports bought for like $250k is also a 2WD, but that means FWD on that chassis.
I am sure their intent was often to make parts for the race cars that they could offer to regular customers. That ends up being a hard thing when you have to balance the compromises you have to make for a daily driven street car versus meeting class rules and the performance demands of a race car.
No doubt, they take some of the lessons learned from the race cars/parts and apply those to the products they offer to the general public, but I think when all is said and done you end up with a different end product in most cases. My point was (mostly) that having/not having a race car probably doesn’t play a huge role in what you ultimately offer consumers in most cases.