Sorry, but if you think your shocks are not compromised after 45K miles – you either drive over silky smooth roads like a grandma in her 92 Buick Le Sabre, or have no idea what car control is supposed to feel like.
ahh, I see. Yeah I haven’t heard a non-resonated yet. There’s a few more local guys with JHM exhaust, so hopefully one of them has non-res and I can hear the difference.
It’s funny, you addressed nothing in the major theme of what I wrote, and instead picked away at supernumerary items mentioned. You said he’s sponsored by ADV. Guess what…he’s FUCKING SPONSORED BY APR TOO. Wake up man.
FOCYS, and address what I wrote. Admit it. All of these superfluous adjustments to the cars are no big deal. Just your crew picking a fight to sell APR shit, and people here showing your hypocrisy. But at the end of the day, none of these things (small hole in firewall, trimmed superfluous metal, fog light replacement, manifold replacement) really matter a fuck.
that’s the thing…the dragstrip is slightly fun because you can go a million, go full bore, and not get arrested, however it’s not a pastime. It’s a yardstick. Just as we go once or twice a year, it’s to measure our mods, and more accurately to fuck around and hang out with friends.
I’ve had one round of mods on my car, and i’ve tested it both stock and modded. But I don’t really need to go other than to hang out with friends who are testing their cars (mistro wants to go 11.999 all motor; bangoman just got tune exhaust; axel wants to set a number etc) and it’s 30 minutes from my house and I’m on their way there, so I go more than most. But it’s not a pastime. In 2013 I went 0x all year. In 2014 I went 2x. Probably will go 1x again in fall.
You guys with teh road course are far different…it’s a real pursuit for you. Comparing the two is a bit ridiculous. This will clarify:
NONE of us are modifying our car for the dragstrip
ALL of you guys are modifying your cars for the road course
That’s all that needs to be said to help you all understand what we’re doing at the dragstrip. You guys modify to make the road course more competitive and enjoyable. We modify our cars and then test their acceleration at the dragstrip. The dragstrip is our dyno. Another big difference is driver skill…the variability in results at thee dragstrip, as long as you’re competent (not Mick incompetent etc) is not much. Fastest guy vs. 10th fastest guy, same car/conditions, is very small difference. Whereas driver skill is DRAMATIC at the road course. AGain, it speaks to the pursuit at the road course being much different. It’s a pastime. A hobby. The dragstrip is a bit pedestrian like a measuring stick. It’s fun while you’re there, but you’re not saying ‘let’s plan out my dragstrip season’ with your barely modified daily driver.
If you can change gears, which the videos would indicate you can, you should go to the strip. You’re east coast, and have great mods on your car. As you saw at VIR I think last year, you were able to whip the shit out of these other guys with their garbage mods on the straight sections. Your car would do very well at the strip.
p.s. would be cool to see you run the big track at VIR. Why don’t they let you? Then you couold compare your times to stock unmodified (but well driven) cars in the Car and Driver lightning lap. Although the track has changed quite a bit, so even that data is useless now.
I didn’t say they were not compromised anywhere in my statement. they have 45k miles of DD driving and 15 track days, of course they are compromised. but why should i have them rebuilt? im not trying to set the record for my DD duties. if the shock are not leaking or damaged, tell me why i should rebuild?
your right (see i can admit that… you cant when others are right). they don’t! i will admit it. i have done none of those things to my car, but don’t think they are a huge deal. and your right i don’t like the fact that you have to stare at the huge silver front mount IC of the APR kit.
It would seem to add the serious power that these kits add there are sacrifices for all of them. just like krypto said in his new post its which sacrafices you are willing to make on your 30-40K car.
Notarmed - no I don’t think I am anywhere near those pro drivers. And your right two seconds is a ton when you are fast. If your slow 2swconds is nothing. But to get to 2:06.2 for me is nearly impossible. So no I understand, but was just trying to put my progress in context…
That’s a bit egocentric. I mentioned about 5 of you with Stasis suspension, crowing about how great it is, including Lawrence who kept crowing about how he picked up 3 seconds on Stasis Vs. DRC. At the end of the day, you guys are all still running shitty lap times at cruiser lapping events. I’m sure it’s fun and buying fancy gloves is exciting, but I’m just saying, nobody is calling you guys from Le Mans when Dindo Capello gets sick from eating bad salmon at La Fontaine des Saveurs. You guys are far too serious about your suspension shit vs. DRC considering you’re not actually racing ANYTHING. You’ll counter about the quarter mile in all likelihood for some reason…even though the members of this site who go do so to gauge performance of their modifications because we recognize the inherent weakness in trusting the dyno (kryptonik does too now, thanks to PES). We’re not spending $5,000 a year on dragtstrip test and tune days. Maybe $100…max! It’s a measuring stick, whereas roadracesuperstars talk like lap days are a way of life.
Having that many miles on the shock means its probably performing at 25-30% of ideal parameters, when comparing to fresh oil, etc.
Most people get coilovers for the added performance, and they know they need rebuilding every 15-20K miles in order for the performance to remain above the 80% ideal range. Pay to play.
Yes, you decide when to service them. But to buy them and never service them, you are essentially paying extra for the same performance a lowering spring will provide. So when you neglect to even touch them, it only bolsters the “ghetto stancetard” title of this thread. Its just wasted money on a DD.
this is now way off topic and i am upset at myself for getting caught up going back and forth with you when i know its never ending… but the fact is yes i am running DE events still that don’t matter worth a shit! your absolutely correct. and no, no pro race team is going to call me, although i wish they would. i will be club racing soon and that is what im working towards. just a hobby to throw money at that i enjoy…
just like why the drag strip is fun for you the track is fun for me. i go, bring either new mods or more seat time experience and try and improve my lap times. end of story. for this same reasoning im sure i would really like the strip as well as it always feels good to get faster.
By best time at VIR is 2:08.2 in my e36 with 260WHP and 229WTQ. i know you guys dont care about my e36 and my track times, but if you look it up (which i know your good at) you will see compared to pro drivers in comparable e36’s, im fairly fast. about 2 seconds off a PRO driver…
ahh, I see. Yeah I haven’t heard a non-resonated yet. There’s a few more local guys with JHM exhaust, so hopefully one of them has non-res and I can hear the difference.