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I think a functional suspension like what your doing is a great thing. It sucks when there are people who take what can be something really neat and make a crazy stupid situation out of it.
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Please explain to me how his “functional system” will be any different than the system FT put in his car?? as saki would say this aught to be good.
please try and leave the wheels and tires out of it as last i checked those are not part on an air suspension “system”
Zmon, stop blowing FT. Why doesn’t he come here and defend his decisions instead of send you?
To each there own, but the majority think he made his car into a rolling joke at this point.
The suspension debate is always interesting, it’s similar to the tune debate. Usually guys don’t want to discuss facts. They just want to say their suspension is the BESTest.
For example: if someone mentions suspension on AZ, everyone comes in with Stasis MS are the best because roadracesuperstar. They don’t tell you how often they need rebuilt or serviced, none of the important negatives are ever mentioned. If you mention them…your a hater and a drag racer who doesn’t knoow what a great suspension feels like…it’s coimical.
98% of us don’t want to rebuild our suspension every 10k miles or less. 98% won’t track our car more than once a year if ever. For that reason DRC is fine with a set of lowering springs. The bag setups and wheel choices are just starting to ruin the platform IMHO…and that is all it is, my opinion. Take RSfazz for example, his fucking car looks hideous with his wheel choice.
Lets stick to the facts:
I have no hole in my firewall. Stasis SL system
shit lap times? what was my last lap time in my E36? do you know? stop with the bullshit
hella low?? bet im maybe .25-.5" lower than you… Maybe. i was getting shit for it at H2o. there you go grouping me into some generalization. again, you and swager may pick your friends based on their personal car modifying preferences, but i actually try and hold judgment until i meet a person and get to know them…
and i used the word sponsorship in reference to ADV and his wheels. you twisted that to APR.
you guys and your constant use of facts. facts are not the same as your delirious misconceptions… but you knew that already.
Agreed, which is why I wanted to post up the reality of that system. Some people don’t like to talk about the negatives of things, only positives.
who fucking cares about your E36…hahaha
you just said your happy with your kit! why are you buying light bars and stuff. this discussion was not about you. it was about the HUGE hole in the firewall from the MS system (have you seen the hole ITS HUGEEEEEEEEEE) and how that ruins an RS4 but somehow the modifications needed for any other mod, (JHM supercharger WAS USED AS AN EXAMPLE only 65vette understood that) does not ruin the RS4.
also i might have not made myself clear or you just group me with FT because im his friend, that i posted on QW a lot (zmoron), but i don’t pick my friends by what wheels and mods they put on their cars. but i have nothing against the JHM supercharger. i don’t have any, but definitely want one and will have one in the next couple of years. it will be between JHM and APR. I also think when JHM is finished i may be able to get a sc’d car and a fully built motor for the cost of just the APR charger… said all that to say that im not against the JHM charger, it just troubles me when you can bitch about a hole in the firewall and not bitch the same way about removing a foglight or whatever other mods require slight car modification, thats all…
Yeah saw that. Not sure what he paid for it originally but he will be be lucky to get $2000 for it used, after probably paying $4,000. Add the $1200 rebuild coat, and that’s an expensive suspension that he only had for 3000 miles.
With that being said he’s terrible at weighing financial decisions with his car so none of it surprises me or makes me feel sorry for him. He is now buying the $7,000 ttx setup…
This is the guy who bought milltek fullback… Then sold out and bought jhm fullback… Then sold out and bought milltek fullback… Then sold it and bought jhm fullback. That’s about $15 grand in exhaust purchases and he sold the used systems for around $4,000…so he spent $11,000 to have jhm exhaust. He does everything 2 or 3 times. Supercharger, suspension, brakes, exhaust…and I am sure he is not done.
Edit:just noticed he’s here now. Hi dave.
Sorry, but if you think your shocks are not compromised after 45K miles – you either drive over silky smooth roads like a grandma in her 92 Buick Le Sabre, or have no idea what car control is supposed to feel like.
all you guys talking about rebuilds are not running the stasis ohlin suspension… so how do you know? i may be neglecting mine but i have not rebuilt since install… picked them up used had them rebuilt and then have been running them for 45K miles. are you going to call me a dumbass now because i dont throw money at something because a bogus warranty tells me i have to yearly…? if the shock are not leaking or compromised why do i have to rebuild? am i the anomaly, doubt it. rebuilds ARE THE USERS CHOICE!!!
correct your statment, you guys are sucking FTs balls, creating threads about him and such. im just asking questions about your statments on how mods are ruining RS4’s cause of holes and cutting things.
Zmoron calm down. Here’s how this went.
1 your crew (you, Bensti , rotten apple, baddriverrs4, larry g) kept popping in to attack the JHM supercharger kit saying “you have to cut into and weaken the chassis for that kit”. Why? FT does it because he signed a contract with Apr. You guys do it because you follow him blindly.
2 the absurdity of that is that you only actually have to cut out a couple of dime sized pieces of superfluous overhang metal. It’s literally nothing.
3 when you retards persisted with this JHM attack to sell Apr, and ignored the facts, people showed your hypocrisy on the matter because you all have stasis… And you all have cut out part of your firewall in order to route your suspension reservoir lines, just so you can be hella low and run shit lap times at VIR once a year
Both modifications are equally minor and to be honest nobody on either side of the argument gives a fuck about either adjustment. You guys made the jhm cut into something much bigger than it was to try to help your friend sell more superchargers (sponsorship I think you mentioned). We mentioned the firewall cut in the stasis cars to show your hypocrisy. That’s it.
Now you’re showing further hypocrisy saying the jhm kit is too unstock looking? This is the group with slammed cars, after market wheels, and who promote the Apr kit with its shiny heat exchanger and after market manifold???
Hopefully you see the reality… None of this shit is a big deal. Stop making it out to be something it isn’t, just in order to help your friend sell superchargers. He’s getting something… Thousands of dollars and free shit. You’re getting NOTHING. You’re pawns…and it looks SAD. Make your own fucking choices for the right reason for a change . The guys on this site have made a choice… And it’s for facts to come forward. Not so some company can bribe us to post.
saki seemed to care about “my shitty lap times”
It’s funny, you addressed nothing in the major theme of what I wrote, and instead picked away at supernumerary items mentioned. You said he’s sponsored by ADV. Guess what…he’s FUCKING SPONSORED BY APR TOO. Wake up man.
FOCYS, and address what I wrote. Admit it. All of these superfluous adjustments to the cars are no big deal. Just your crew picking a fight to sell APR shit, and people here showing your hypocrisy. But at the end of the day, none of these things (small hole in firewall, trimmed superfluous metal, fog light replacement, manifold replacement) really matter a fuck.
Hi Saki.
For the record:
Purchased Milltek
Purchased JHM resonated PROTOTYPE (didnt like the sound)
Purchased Milltek to get the sound back
Purchased JHM non-res official exhaust that was better finished.
Purchased JHM rotors
Purchased Stoptech F&R after realizing JHM rotors are not intended for track use.
Purchased PES supercharger
Purchased JHM tune for same performance (even better) than PES
Purchased AMD supercharger
Purchased KW
Purchased Stasis MS
Purchased PSi TTX after realized the reality of labor for install/removal of Stasis
This is the guy that is taking one for the team and testing out every system out ther for our cars at his own expense to save others the hassle lol.
I didn’t say they were not compromised anywhere in my statement. they have 45k miles of DD driving and 15 track days, of course they are compromised. but why should i have them rebuilt? im not trying to set the record for my DD duties. if the shock are not leaking or damaged, tell me why i should rebuild?
Yeah I know I’m just saying I stopped feeling bad for you about 2 generations of everything ago.
Interesting comment about the sound of the jhm exhaust. I believe I have exhaust #1 or #2 (bought Dan’s old one) and between my exhaust (hand made jhm catted/resonated exhaust made by jhm) and mistro’s car (hand made jhm catted resonated exhaust made for jhm by fast intentions) , we found it virtually indistinguishable. I will see if I can find a vid .
Here’s two. Same day same gopro same Mic
My car with camera
http://youtu.be/p4SGcn2MRMw
Mistro’s car with camera
http://youtu.be/9sunRsAVsCQ
your right (see i can admit that… you cant when others are right). they don’t! i will admit it. i have done none of those things to my car, but don’t think they are a huge deal. and your right i don’t like the fact that you have to stare at the huge silver front mount IC of the APR kit.
It would seem to add the serious power that these kits add there are sacrifices for all of them. just like krypto said in his new post its which sacrafices you are willing to make on your 30-40K car.
I know you have haha, it’s all good.
I know you’ve always loved the resonated sound of the exhaust best, and it does sound amazing. I just wanted a little more without the resonators.
Those clips sound great!
That’s a bit egocentric. I mentioned about 5 of you with Stasis suspension, crowing about how great it is, including Lawrence who kept crowing about how he picked up 3 seconds on Stasis Vs. DRC. At the end of the day, you guys are all still running shitty lap times at cruiser lapping events. I’m sure it’s fun and buying fancy gloves is exciting, but I’m just saying, nobody is calling you guys from Le Mans when Dindo Capello gets sick from eating bad salmon at La Fontaine des Saveurs. You guys are far too serious about your suspension shit vs. DRC considering you’re not actually racing ANYTHING. You’ll counter about the quarter mile in all likelihood for some reason…even though the members of this site who go do so to gauge performance of their modifications because we recognize the inherent weakness in trusting the dyno (kryptonik does too now, thanks to PES). We’re not spending $5,000 a year on dragtstrip test and tune days. Maybe $100…max! It’s a measuring stick, whereas roadracesuperstars talk like lap days are a way of life.
Lets stick to the facts:
I have no hole in my firewall. Stasis SL system
shit lap times? what was my last lap time in my E36? do you know? stop with the bullshit
hella low?? bet im maybe .25-.5" lower than you… Maybe. i was getting shit for it at H2o. there you go grouping me into some generalization. again, you and swager may pick your friends based on their personal car modifying preferences, but i actually try and hold judgment until i meet a person and get to know them…
and i used the word sponsorship in reference to ADV and his wheels. you twisted that to APR.
you guys and your constant use of facts. facts are not the same as your delirious misconceptions… but you knew that already.
this is now way off topic and i am upset at myself for getting caught up going back and forth with you when i know its never ending… but the fact is yes i am running DE events still that don’t matter worth a shit! your absolutely correct. and no, no pro race team is going to call me, although i wish they would. i will be club racing soon and that is what im working towards. just a hobby to throw money at that i enjoy…
just like why the drag strip is fun for you the track is fun for me. i go, bring either new mods or more seat time experience and try and improve my lap times. end of story. for this same reasoning im sure i would really like the strip as well as it always feels good to get faster.
By best time at VIR is 2:08.2 in my e36 with 260WHP and 229WTQ. i know you guys dont care about my e36 and my track times, but if you look it up (which i know your good at) you will see compared to pro drivers in comparable e36’s, im fairly fast. about 2 seconds off a PRO driver…
and because you really don’t care.,… here: