I want to try to get in before I get up to altitude in Colorado. We will see. Maybe I will find some time while I am on leave this summer while I am at sea level. I can bet times in Colorado will add at least a half a second if not more.
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I think a functional suspension like what your doing is a great thing. It sucks when there are people who take what can be something really neat and make a crazy stupid situation out of it.
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Please explain to me how his “functional system” will be any different than the system FT put in his car?? as saki would say this aught to be good.
please try and leave the wheels and tires out of it as last i checked those are not part on an air suspension “system”
Zmon, stop blowing FT. Why doesn’t he come here and defend his decisions instead of send you?
To each there own, but the majority think he made his car into a rolling joke at this point.
The suspension debate is always interesting, it’s similar to the tune debate. Usually guys don’t want to discuss facts. They just want to say their suspension is the BESTest.
For example: if someone mentions suspension on AZ, everyone comes in with Stasis MS are the best because roadracesuperstar. They don’t tell you how often they need rebuilt or serviced, none of the important negatives are ever mentioned. If you mention them…your a hater and a drag racer who doesn’t knoow what a great suspension feels like…it’s coimical.
98% of us don’t want to rebuild our suspension every 10k miles or less. 98% won’t track our car more than once a year if ever. For that reason DRC is fine with a set of lowering springs. The bag setups and wheel choices are just starting to ruin the platform IMHO…and that is all it is, my opinion. Take RSfazz for example, his fucking car looks hideous with his wheel choice.
I wrote not posted yet though. They haven’t posted his times.
I have been nagging jhm for the time slips and mod list but they’re holding back on sharing too much supercharger information until final release.
Agreed, which is why I wanted to post up the reality of that system. Some people don’t like to talk about the negatives of things, only positives.
you just said your happy with your kit! why are you buying light bars and stuff. this discussion was not about you. it was about the HUGE hole in the firewall from the MS system (have you seen the hole ITS HUGEEEEEEEEEE) and how that ruins an RS4 but somehow the modifications needed for any other mod, (JHM supercharger WAS USED AS AN EXAMPLE only 65vette understood that) does not ruin the RS4.
also i might have not made myself clear or you just group me with FT because im his friend, that i posted on QW a lot (zmoron), but i don’t pick my friends by what wheels and mods they put on their cars. but i have nothing against the JHM supercharger. i don’t have any, but definitely want one and will have one in the next couple of years. it will be between JHM and APR. I also think when JHM is finished i may be able to get a sc’d car and a fully built motor for the cost of just the APR charger… said all that to say that im not against the JHM charger, it just troubles me when you can bitch about a hole in the firewall and not bitch the same way about removing a foglight or whatever other mods require slight car modification, thats all…
That red rs4 looks quite simply fucking stupid. I also agree there is a difference in jhm blowing motors and apr. Have apr fixed any of the broken cars they didn’t own? Jhm owned there’s I believe so fair play for years of testing and breaking. Lastly I run ohlins on my b5 I think it’s the best out there but is a pain in the arse having it taken off and rebuilt. Last time was 700 gbp for the refurb plus time to remove and re fit it’s not cheap. It’s also not something I’ll do yearly as the car will do minimal miles
Yeah saw that. Not sure what he paid for it originally but he will be be lucky to get $2000 for it used, after probably paying $4,000. Add the $1200 rebuild coat, and that’s an expensive suspension that he only had for 3000 miles.
With that being said he’s terrible at weighing financial decisions with his car so none of it surprises me or makes me feel sorry for him. He is now buying the $7,000 ttx setup…
This is the guy who bought milltek fullback… Then sold out and bought jhm fullback… Then sold out and bought milltek fullback… Then sold it and bought jhm fullback. That’s about $15 grand in exhaust purchases and he sold the used systems for around $4,000…so he spent $11,000 to have jhm exhaust. He does everything 2 or 3 times. Supercharger, suspension, brakes, exhaust…and I am sure he is not done.
Edit:just noticed he’s here now. Hi dave.
You guys probably saw Krypto is pulling his Stasis MS. Ridiculous. A suspension that is only good for x amount of miles/km and requires a rebuild is just robbery. Imagine owning that suspension here in Canada? It would probably be a “fixed” suspension after one winter from rust. “But it is sooo amazing, much better than stock” just doesn’t cut it. There is a balance between something great and the complications from going with it. Kinda like doing crack. Probably “sooo amazing”, but not worth it in the long run, just ask Mr. Ford.
all you guys talking about rebuilds are not running the stasis ohlin suspension… so how do you know? i may be neglecting mine but i have not rebuilt since install… picked them up used had them rebuilt and then have been running them for 45K miles. are you going to call me a dumbass now because i dont throw money at something because a bogus warranty tells me i have to yearly…? if the shock are not leaking or compromised why do i have to rebuild? am i the anomaly, doubt it. rebuilds ARE THE USERS CHOICE!!!
correct your statment, you guys are sucking FTs balls, creating threads about him and such. im just asking questions about your statments on how mods are ruining RS4’s cause of holes and cutting things.
Tend to agree but if it’s not on a daily and you can afford to rebuild it, then I personally think it’s the suspension of choice. From personal experience it’s absolutely superb
Zmoron calm down. Here’s how this went.
1 your crew (you, Bensti , rotten apple, baddriverrs4, larry g) kept popping in to attack the JHM supercharger kit saying “you have to cut into and weaken the chassis for that kit”. Why? FT does it because he signed a contract with Apr. You guys do it because you follow him blindly.
2 the absurdity of that is that you only actually have to cut out a couple of dime sized pieces of superfluous overhang metal. It’s literally nothing.
3 when you retards persisted with this JHM attack to sell Apr, and ignored the facts, people showed your hypocrisy on the matter because you all have stasis… And you all have cut out part of your firewall in order to route your suspension reservoir lines, just so you can be hella low and run shit lap times at VIR once a year
Both modifications are equally minor and to be honest nobody on either side of the argument gives a fuck about either adjustment. You guys made the jhm cut into something much bigger than it was to try to help your friend sell more superchargers (sponsorship I think you mentioned). We mentioned the firewall cut in the stasis cars to show your hypocrisy. That’s it.
Now you’re showing further hypocrisy saying the jhm kit is too unstock looking? This is the group with slammed cars, after market wheels, and who promote the Apr kit with its shiny heat exchanger and after market manifold???
Hopefully you see the reality… None of this shit is a big deal. Stop making it out to be something it isn’t, just in order to help your friend sell superchargers. He’s getting something… Thousands of dollars and free shit. You’re getting NOTHING. You’re pawns…and it looks SAD. Make your own fucking choices for the right reason for a change . The guys on this site have made a choice… And it’s for facts to come forward. Not so some company can bribe us to post.
If I remember correctly, Krypto is known for buying parts and then selling them in the short future. It is almost like he wants to try out all the latest new trends.
He still takes the hit in deprecation. Kind of like people that only buy new cars, every other year.
Hi Saki.
For the record:
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Purchased Milltek
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Purchased JHM resonated PROTOTYPE (didnt like the sound)
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Purchased Milltek to get the sound back
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Purchased JHM non-res official exhaust that was better finished.
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Purchased JHM rotors
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Purchased Stoptech F&R after realizing JHM rotors are not intended for track use.
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Purchased PES supercharger
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Purchased JHM tune for same performance (even better) than PES
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Purchased AMD supercharger
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Purchased KW
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Purchased Stasis MS
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Purchased PSi TTX after realized the reality of labor for install/removal of Stasis
This is the guy that is taking one for the team and testing out every system out ther for our cars at his own expense to save others the hassle lol.
Rebuilding a suspension that often would be too much for me. I have a hard enough time swapping winter and summer wheels.
I’ve been in other Audi cars with suspension and I just don’t think it’s a must. I’ve had suspension upgrades done and sure some cars need more suspension help than others. Personally when people say it’s a must or its more comfortable it’s so subjective.
People that argue like that are trying to justify their money being spent.
Yeah I know I’m just saying I stopped feeling bad for you about 2 generations of everything ago.
Interesting comment about the sound of the jhm exhaust. I believe I have exhaust #1 or #2 (bought Dan’s old one) and between my exhaust (hand made jhm catted/resonated exhaust made by jhm) and mistro’s car (hand made jhm catted resonated exhaust made for jhm by fast intentions) , we found it virtually indistinguishable. I will see if I can find a vid .
Here’s two. Same day same gopro same Mic
My car with camera
http://youtu.be/p4SGcn2MRMw
Mistro’s car with camera
http://youtu.be/9sunRsAVsCQ
Hey Musano, if I’m not mistaken the MS system won’t rust (only springs, like on KWs).
You are right… I’m always in search of the best for this car. I think I’m almost there, last thing to figure out is the right supercharger ;D
I know you have haha, it’s all good.
I know you’ve always loved the resonated sound of the exhaust best, and it does sound amazing. I just wanted a little more without the resonators.
Those clips sound great!
As is my case. I don’t mind doing this “maintenance” to the car, gives me something to wrench on. Although paying someone to install the MS system is one thing, trying to tackle the res routing by yourself is more than I bargain for. That I consider “too much” work when there are superior/simpler suspensions out there now (PSi).