GIAC dyno & track debate

B5 S4/ RS4
#21

But why this?

[quote]Launching a B8 S4 is somewhat tricky, but I have done it a few times with reasonably good results.
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And then we see this… http://audirevolution.net/forum/index.php?topic=1015.0

Someone is lying!!! With the claimed numbers from this setup, this car should be in the 11’s! Better call up APR for an explanation.

Oh, nevermind, he has an excuse. And so does Saki…

[quote]91 octane - this is the biggest performance killer. We saw a 91 GIAC car at the strip with us, and the APR/REVO 93 cars murdered him. 91 is a big killer as far as all out performance goes
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But wait, wasn’t the previously mentioned GIAC car running 91 octane?

But that doesn’t matter, because in this thread you decided to change your tone because you don’t like GIAC. It is crazy that you beat that 402whp monster!

But wait, did anyone ever actually dyno the car in question?

No worries, your car only makes 330whp. But wait, have you dyno’d your car? The fastest “stock” RS4?

And do you know how many miles were on this particular S4’s spark plugs? Have you dyno’d a B8 S4 WITH 20k on the spark plugs? Of course not, you don’t own one.

But here comes Saki again, using dyno numbers to extrapolate what ET’s he thinks a car should run. Unfortunately, he doesn’t even have dyno numbers to back it up. So now we have found false claims made by EPL, AMD, GIAC, and now APR. Because they CLAIM these numbers, but any one customer cannot go out and run a great ET. There are no other factors involved, only the tuning provided…
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Your whole post/evidence is based on quotes and content from a thread about a manual b8…but the one I raced and beat, which had your “we make 102 whp over stock on 91!” file…was an automatic.

So there goes that entire post. Keep trying though sunshine. Can’t wait for you to address some of the questions asked of you.

P.S. Are giac going to blame the spark plugs when they get caught playing dyno games now? Lol

#22

Ummm he trapped 109

One oh fucking nine.

In an automatic.

He didn’t bog a launch…and if he did it wouldn’t destroy his fucking trap speed.

If you bog a launch but rip through the gears in your 450 whp car you won’t trap drastically below a run with a good launch for one. This is dragstrip 101. Have you not even taken your car to the strip???..oh my god…you haven’t lol. It all makes sense now.

And if your car was a modern b8 with the auto Trans you wouldn’t bog at all. He made five or six passes and then left discouraged to watch cars on the road course. Incidentally the Apr and revo b8 guys ran excellent times that day. Conditions were excellent.

The more you post trying to show us all how much you know…you ACTUALLY just show us all how much you DON’T know.

#23

[quote=“Meistah,post:19,topic:3678”]
He is dragging the argument out by replying to an OP who made a B8 thread in the B5 section? ???

#24

[quote=“jibberjive,post:23,topic:3678”]

No jabber jive. Someone in site admin split this discussion out of the jhm ten second thread.

#25

Probably could’ve picked a better section for the B8 and RS4 discussion. And either way, he’s definitely not the one dragging the argument out, like the post I quoted said.

#26

jbberjive why do you post here if you’re just going to complain all the time about me? Wouldn’t your time be better spent fixing your transmission and turning your 14 second GT turbo’d B5 S4 into something interesting we can all talk about?

#27

Per usual, you’re speaking unfounded BS. You have no idea how fast my car is or isn’t.

If you keep making dumb posts/threads harping about the dyno, acting as if dyno numbers can be directly compared, then I’ll comment on the dumb threads. Don’t like it, then don’t make the dumb threads/posts.

#28

Jibberjive; I’m pretty sure you don’t even know how fast/slow your car is. Saki just threw a number out there. If you have a problem with it, prove him wrong. Until then, stop trying to change a person who is 100% for proof. If you don’t like what he is saying, prove him wrong and stop trying to prove yourself correct without producing facts.

#29

[quote="_F.A.W,post:28,topic:3678"]
Because someone has no idea about something, they can just throw whatever they want to say out there, as if it’s true? That’s ignorance. The burden of proof is on the accuser, not the accused who is getting completely fabricated and false BS thrown at them. Good thing you’re not a lawyer lol.

“stop trying to prove yourself correct without producing facts,” I haven’t tried to prove anything, other than the fact that Saki is speaking completely baseless-ly with his BS regarding my car. I used to at least have respect for him over you in the regard that he wouldn’t just completely fabricate something and blatantly lie, but it appears that that part of his integrity is now gone.

#30

Wow this is comedy gold right there!!!

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black