thats good to hear.
Actually what Jupiter posted is untrue. Jfonz himself mentioned that he needed to stop using stolen code on this very site…it wasnt me but several other people who have accused jfonz of stealing I dont make it up I just repeat so people dont forget
You can always sell things for cheap when you dont test have no shop and no name and quite frankly no experience. Its obvious I wasnt the only one that picked up 9n the fact that this tune was just made on friday but there selling it today
No one is being given a bad rap here its the truth and many people dont know it. If it was just me other peoe wouldnt be saying the same thing…jfonz stumbles threw b5 stuff makes his start 9n a site that was or still is dedicated to helping people steal tunes and make changes only to then have him admit that he does and did work this way…he might be a real nice guy and over time he might be able to get past his less then impressive start…making somwthing on friday and selling a untested version on momday says not much changed
Jupetor can say he was working on the tune for a while but we all know thats bs as well…they slipped up amd mentioned that this wasnt tue case
whose jupiter?
And he did stop using stolen code, from what he’s told us.
I think the best thing would be for him to just discuss it openly with us.
PS ChrisK, do you tune for GM? If so PM me I have a couple questions.
I think he meant eyespi
Jupiteraudi is another poster altogether.
Sorry ment to say eyespi…read too many posts today
One more person that can vavladate jf9nz admitt8ng to using stolen code…
I can tune most gm cars im nowhere near tuning for gm…have been big into fabrication and tuning LS motors for too many years to count
Chrisk, The NLS & LC that was posted on Nefmoto issue has been beaten to death. Josh did not steal the code, Julex posted the code as he owned a Eurodyne Chris Tapp file that he was dissecting. Josh manned up and no longer charges for Eurodyne coding.
If you honestly believe that ITguy flew Josh to Vegas and booked Dyno time without Josh having the slightest inkling of how to tune the B8 you’d be crazy. Josh mentioned to me quite a while back that he was working on B8 code, the latest was just used as his coming out party.
You have a raging hard on for Josh, you claim that you hope he can pull himself up from a shaky, shadowy start, but you are not willing to give any leeway or the slightest benefit of the doubt. Why don’t we sit back and just see what happens, I have a feeling most will be surpirsed
Sorry… How is it not stealing code? Because someone else posted it, and he got called out, then stopped selling it? That means he didn’t steal/sell the code?
I rob many many banks. Someone finds out and tells me it is wrong. I then wake up from a moral fog and realise yes, it is wrong. I stop robbing banks.
Did I never rob banks because I eventually stopped? Did that erase the past?
I don’t get it.
No kidding eother do loads of other rational people.
Eyespi I care about jfonz about as much as I care for asp pes and other over hyped flops that hang by a thread and hope there shady shit gets over looked
Eyesli I think that if you believe jfonz flew out to vags with out a stolen tune to flash in sillyrabbitsellchina ur crazy…we can call eachother crazy with no truth to either claim…
Personally you need to be done with this debate…you asked for proof me amd several other mwmbers mentioned how we knew he was using stolen code and was also acused of stealing code …how is it my fault that the guy made money off other peoples work that he stole. …
Sitback and see what happens…we just did that and its even bigger of a joke then what is already looked at…you have one guy itguy who slings china parts with jfonz …who itguy is actually a home baised drop ship hook up from the looks of it…so u have this itguy who has needed to jump 8nto every thread to bash other companys in a sorry ass attempt to sell hos china turbos…now Itguy isnt a vender 9n az but he looks to sell parts without being upfront…so you have him…then jfonz amd the fact that he got kicked off az apparently he wasnt upto az standards…my suspision is that az figgured out he wasnt a legit biz and he was doing this out of his basement amd kicked him off…so you have these two guys how have proven to be dishonest In the past…the Itguy pops into the b8 forum like some random guy…a guy who we dont even know if this is his car…anyway they put a tune in the car friday night and feel comfortable selling it momday morning…we did sit back and we just saw more side show kid bs …facts…everyone is beating up revo guys then beating up on awe guys…testing testing. .and here is frick and frack sideshow act looking t9 jump into this mix after testing a tune for a whole 36 hours. …dude …ill even go oldschool on you…bro…your out of toutch if u think thats not adding to the j9ke that is jfomz…if thats ur recipy for him to get away from his already questionable past…ur not just out of touch ur out of ur mind. …try looking out for the best interests of the community not just ur best friend
When it comes down to it, everyone and their mother would be writing tunes for the B8 S4 if they had a way to unlock the ECU.
Then it goes further, you need to have dealers (and factor in your lowest common denominator here) who have both the ability to unlock the ECU according to your procedure, then flash it with your normal device for unlocked ECUs.
I think the key here, is that now ASP, and JFonz have the ability to disable the anti-tuning encryption, in addition to the 3 other innovators. It was even suggested by Keith or Arin (I forget which), that both GIAC and REVO used the same unlocking method, or rather something like, “isn’t a funny coincidence that they figured out the unlock at the same time”. APR made no secret that they spent something like a year and many engineers full-time working on the unlock. It was also pretty much suggested from Arin to REVO that once dealer unlocking existed for these ECUs, that other tuners won’t be far behind. REVO got there first, anyhow.
If there is theivery, I’d look at the unlock procedure - if the method of cracking into an ECU can even be considered some sort of I.P., that is.
Anyway, after that’s done, the tuning itself is the icing on the cake.
The Count must be willing to offer some insight into this issue…no?
Did your leader Fonzy, who is too busy tuning the fastest cars on the planet to address these issues at hand finish your tune yet?
I would love to do a pull with a Fonzy tuned 2.7 single turbo to see how many cars it would beat me by.
The count already did offer some insight and help… Back when apr was trying to ‘figure out’ how to unlock the ecu.
Anyway I think you’re focusing on the unlocking which is interesting, however the issue that dogged jfonz was copying other company tunes. N. E. F. is home to lots of people who ‘self tune’… by posting and copying other tuners files. It is widely speculated that jfonz tunes were comprised of cobbled together information (copied) from that site. While many go there to tune their own car, he allegedly took it to the next step.
Think of downloading a few albums on a Torrent site. Common as hell. The next step is picking up a guitar, playing various parts of those songs and putting them together as a ‘new’ song, and selling the song as your own.
The people who actually wrote the song know immediately what they are listening to.
I’d stick with the meat of what I was saying…how did these new tuners get the unlocking procedures for these ECUs?
However JFonz learned how to tune or what he pilfered off stealmoto at this point is a little irrelevant talking about the B8 S4. Unless you’d want to turn this into a narfmoto thread. Some people think he stole, some he didn’t, but its pretty obvious by his dyno that the tune is in the beginning stages. We’d have to assume he can tune a car.
Anyhow would be interesting to see what someone like Arin or Count has to say about unlocking.
Haha, nvrmnd…found it.
http://www.chiptuningshop.co.uk/products/cmdflash-siemens-pcr-probe/
Seems tools and software were released/updated just this month for simos 8.4
Look out, SPaZZtuning is opening up at a garage near you
Don’t be an idiot, this thread has nothing to do with my build.
For the record, I have no vested interest the success of Jfonz tuning, I just feel that he is getting a bad wrap on this site.
I’m sorry for making you go dig up that dead body of a thread, but I never said that this thread was about your build. I was just shedding light on the fact that you and other people who are in the process/ have Fonzy tunes are always speaking up for him. This thread is about his tune, something that you said you were getting. I thought your car was done. I also never said that I wanted to race you, so please relax with all that profanity before you wake up even more dead builds from Audizine.
faw, dogging a guy like eyespi makes no sense. He’s been a good contributor and an all around level headed guy.
The Jfonz thread on AZ blew up with some rage today…
-Skid
ooooh. gotta look
edit…Jfonz get tsivas and me some logs…that’s always fun…we’re both quite unbiased, unlike some!
Looks like a pulley is out for Jfonz… Will see how this goes… Shame he is in Vegas… Maybe he can trek over to Sac and make some passes… Maybe he and paper can run…
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/525846-JFonz-pulley-install