JHM Rs6r turbo. What really is it

[quote=“jibberjive,post:64,topic:3891”]

If I were CountVohn I would not reply to you. Why are you so concerned? It is obvious that you will not be buying these particular turbo’s. I think you should use your late night brain cells to focuse on asking the Count if he can help you fix your tune on your car so that you can maybe make it to the track this year.

[quote="_F.A.W,post:65,topic:3891"]

The second part of faw’s remark is a great idea. Jibberjive, should delete his n.e.f. account and hire a professional. That way he won’t be scared to race faw’s A4.

So CV needed Shawn/ARD’s extensive contacts to test a turbo? Right. Not buying that paragraph at all. Sounds like you guys should have kept your dog on a shorter leash, all this shit has stemmed from Shawn being Shawn, talking a big ass game to anyone who will listen.

Well the Rs6R turbos are a proven 11 sec turbo on stock block and pump gas… Watched S6atron/ hunna boy come out the whole completely sideways and still click off a 11.80 in his heavy swagon lol!!! One thing for sure is Hunter can grip gears… every time he hit third there was a 3 foot fire ball out the exhaust!!! ;D

[quote=“sakimano,post:66,topic:3891”]
Lol, so under your shill-troll-nutswinger account on AZ you tell everyone to come over here and address any questions to CV directly, and when I do exactly that to address the last thing that could be interpreted multiple ways, you try to make some smart Alec response to try to feel like a bad A lol. And you personally pm me a couple of months ago to ask me to post my logging DIY writeup, and now you’re trying to hash on me and n.e.f.m.o.t.o :smiley:

[quote=“jibberjive,post:69,topic:3891”]

I just made a joke about your still non running car jibberjive. Frankly i would comfortably say you should delete that account and hire a pro to tune your car if you want results.

No need to be such a Bitch about it.

Yes I asked you to post the logging instructions. A couple of members here asked about how to do it at the very same time, so it was perfect timing. I didn’t realize there were all the negatives associated with n.e.f…(or that you would turn into such a drama queen here after faw owned you by calling your race bluff with his car, the slowest B5 ever vs your not yet able to run B5).

You really have gone downhill. Such a shame.

was that today? Looking forward to video. I hear there were four 2.7t guys out?

[quote=“jibberjive,post:69,topic:3891”]

SNitch.

yes

All right there tough-guy-who-knows-nothing-about-me-or-my-build :-*

I post the question again, so that it doesn’t get lost in the riff-raff.

[quote=“jibberjive,post:64,topic:3891”]

Hey! I know we have had our words in the past but this is bigger then that. I think we have both grown up.
Truth… No CV didn’t NEED my help he helped me when I really needed it. Truth be told I was excited about being part of this. I think CV has set up a real strong plan for production and grabbing more then just one part of the market.

Guilty as charged. I did get and I am excited about this.

The bigger issue here is that scam artists think they are going to pull one over on people. You have some random guy known for knocking off parts and sending stuff to china. Either A knocking off the RS6-r and calling it the same or B. getting the LD turbos and thinking he has figured it all out. The amount of lies and games these guys are going through just shows there desperation.

Facts.
I started getting these turbos out to people over 2 years ago
There is a customer of mine that backs up everything I have said and has now had a set of turbos for over 9 months now.

These other guys just started talking about this a few weeks ago. Its not that hard to figure out.
If there A or B it isn’t an issue. What is an issue is that these guys DCX and his pet friends have been telling lies from the get go. Looking to grab the 2+ years of JH Motorsports testing to try and sell there parts.

I am going to with hold any and all comments or opinions I have about all this. I do not have any current concrete facts and if I did I would love to clear the air on all this. I will say that I believe both sides, i believe both sides think they are telling the truth. I will also say DxC has been developing these for over 2 years also. I know that for a fact. I will also say, very seriously that I wish none of this was happening, its horrible for our industry and specifically the b5 s4 scene.

I have some pretty strong theories, some pretty good info and a great memory, Shawn if you would ever like to discuss this off the forums I am all ears, I am going to bow out of all these threads that luckily I have had a minor to non existent presence in because I fear if I talk about it, my opinions will be taken as facts to the less informed who turn to people like me for guidance.

Snow Trooper.

Come on man don’t drink the koolade. DXC mentioned that he was going to send turbos to china. DXC= parts from china. Talking about and doing are two different things. It’s not hard to go search AZ. So basically DXC has been developing something that has already been out, After they came out. I had a set of Beta JHM RSwhatever you want to call them. Two fucking years ago. Its clear to me DXC picked up JHMs scraps and wants to call them his.

DXC said he invented these but some how jhm got them two years before he invented them? Ok lets say thats true. Then you have to believe that DXCs china connection never reviled to DXC that a company was selling HIS turbos A YEAR BEFORE DXC attempted to not only sell them but to bring them to the USA??? DXC has been asking questions over and over to see pictures of the JHM units. He saw pictures months ago when a member posted them. He never mentioned this then. He even said the china knock off turbos were “close to what a RS6-r would be” DXC also said he had a container of frankenturbos ko4s as well. saying that frankenturbos were made in the same place as the RS6x turbo. What? Now DXC makes Frankenturbo and JHM turbos but both of them have been selling for well over a year before DXC even talks about it…mmmm no the list of doesn’t add up keeps getting longer and longer

Concrete facts. JHM released a video of these turbos in action OVER a year ago. DXC and all of his paid puppets were no where to be found. DXC just the other day accused frankenturbo of being made in the same place. DXCs biggest issue is is ego, and he is just pushing that. DXC had EPL make his set of RS6 turbos for his car. From there DXC said he was sending RS6 turbos off to be copied. Ok these JHM turbos are not RS6 turbos. There a parts bin turbo with some great and much needed updates.

While I don’t know CV and Im not super fond of MrARD. I’m one guy that is saying I can back up what they have said. I’m one of many. If the mountain of clear proof and a time line that should be enough to just take the wind out of the DXC story. DXC and his weak ass attempt to sell this failed Idea that he made something and JHM is taking it is just making him a desperate joke.

China isn’t one guy that answers a phone. ITS FUCKING HUGE and there are tens of thousands of parts knocked off and sent there EVERY day. There are knock off of knock offs. DXC said he was going to send turbos to china. YES HIM AND LIKE 50 OTHER PEOPLE ahead of him already did it.

Here Ill update my thread from a YEAR ago when I had already had the JHM turbos on my car for several months. I was told when I got them to keep this off line. But you can read my posts unedited and see that this year I already had popped in saying that I have a set and was going to tear them down.

http://audirevolution.net/forum/index.php?topic=371.0

I have consumed no koolaide, I know what I know and I also know what I don’t know. I’m not taking any sides. I keep hearing that Jhm has had these for years, I believe that. I also happen to know that dxc has been fucking with these for years.

I will reiterate in different wording, everyone is bending the truth, everyone thinks they are being legit. It’s fucking stupid and annoying at this point.

Im with you I thjink all this is bad for the B5 but lets be honest. We have proof that JHM has had this for years. We know dxc has talked about this for years. there is a big difference here.

dxc and his stroy has changed with the tide. I don’t know how any one can take someone who showed up to the party 2 years and 2 moths to late with nothing more then claims and weak ass statments as serious… OH actually I do know. Its the B5 and its now a collection of 18-24 year old kids who think knocking off parts is “Advancement” the people that believe in this crap are jujut looking for a cheap part hope. Snow you of anyone know it takes real money and real parts to make a real product.

JHM has done proven and had
dxc has talked…talked…and talked… and then shown up late like a drunk ex saying how she was prom queen before she got ugly.

/thread

as I said in the other thread, I think the thing that sticks out like a sore thumb here (well, other than DxC ‘fucking’ with these for years, but never actually testing one until last week…that doesn’t sound like he was very serious about it)

That is that one company is a legit, operating company with accountability, accessibility, has done a boatload of R&D, and continues to do so…and the other company is a guy with a history of stealing/copying others, who may or may not be working out of his house’s garage. He and his distribution channel (lol naudlee) are working from the seat of their pants, with no phone number, no business location, and no business to speak of.

I think it’s pretty clear who the obvious choice is, for those in the market…and for those wondering who to listen to. I’m all for being a startup, but you can’t be a startup forever. You have to step up eventually.

[quote=“CountVohn,post:48,topic:3891”]
I really really really appreciate this post, I had a HUGE response typed up, but my computer battery died and I lost it all!!! SO upsetting. It was nice meeting you, even for just a second at the track. I didn’t mean to be prying at any secrets when I asked what turbos you were running, I honestly just wanted to know because I am a curious guy! I am sorry you had issue there, hope its something simple like valve float, rather than anything serious.

I had a ton of good points to make about my history as a Mechanical Engineer, my appreciation of all the information you have shared, and such. As well as my dislike of Naudlee and his practices, especially with regard to his bashing of VAST and JHM.

On to this post, the biggest thing I wanted to ask was what exactly is the difference between the China LD turbos and the HD turbos?

Is it the bearings, housings, any other parts? I only noticed you specifically talking about the quality of the “virgin bronze” bearings. I’ve only had a small bit of research into the manufacturing processes of sintered bronze bearings, but I do know a bit about material quality and scoring resistance. Is there a specific bronze family that was better than the knock off crap the China turbos used?

Where are the HD turbos from?

Are some of the parts sourced from china, and others to other places?

[quote=“Meow,post:82,topic:3891”]

Didn’t mean to be rude. I was there with the family and it was the wifes car. We had to leave by 3 to make it to dance for my daughter. The motor is fine. It was the transmission that took out the case. kinda hard to float a valve when the transmission shifts at 6600.

Ill get a post made later to cover some of your questions.

Ahhh, that makes sense. It sounded like your trans misshifted and the revs skyrocketed and then white smoke! So my first thought was valve float, especially when we heard you drive past, it sounded just like when I floated my valve. Hope you get it sorted, was a great looking car!