JHM tune/exhaust RS4 vs. TTRS - who would win?

B6/7 S4/RS4
#8

Looks quite a bit faster, and before you argue that those times were set by the DSG, remember what you said, trap doesn’t change much, if at all so I still have a better trap than you!
Forgot that?

First of all the car and driver test is one guy driving the cars, not multiple people with different talent levels.
Second of all, if the track is a more open track it would make less sense that the inherently faster car that handles better on a tight track would be slower. Times are null and void if they aren’t the same driver. Every magazine had the RS4 slower than the TTRS in every performance category.

No what makes us different is I forgive people and I humble my self when I am wrong. Everyone makes mistakes, not everyone admits and apologizes, you do neither of the latter.

AR is polluted with your twisted words and twisted facts.

#9

yet for some reason you and guys like jibberjive can’t stay away. Stepping in to argue on AMDs behalf about an RS4 supercharger and Saki’s comments about the TTRS.

Why does it take them so long to build B5s? Serious question, haven’t you been waiting forever? I only ask because we have a local POS import tuning place that take cars and let them sit for months, while charging those customers they spend their time hooking up friends cars and their own cars. I know things don’t happen over night, but it’s not like building a B5 S4 is something new.

#10

In a year having the silver car Jason built it twice and delivered it. It’s actually pretty good considering he is the only one there.
Building cars always takes patience, and he backs his product. That’s pretty good. I’ve dealt with 3 companies with just the B5, I’ve dealt with multiple companies overall, including wheel 2 wheel that Chrisk worked at. I knew people there well. They put a supercharger on my truck, made horrible power until I insisted to add boost it took them
Months to put on a bolt-on-blower. Blew up 2 transmissions and they continued to give me a crappy torque converter solution.

Every, I will repeat, EVERY company has its fallbacks and problems. I choose to stay with Jason for many reasons because I know no company is perfect. And he delivers a product that kicks butt and he backs it.

I commented on this thread only because of him saying a tuned RS4 would beat a TTRS around a track. I have been researching the car for months. It is a far superior handling car than the RS4 and is comparable in speed. I was very frustrated to see no one notice what saki said was BS. The TTRS is more comparable around a road course with the R8 V8 than the RS4. Ask anyone who has driven either, also ask anyone who was at the track that day the AMD RS4 stage 1 was there (there is a rumor there was a JHM car there as well) about the TTRS around a track VS the rS4 stock let alone a tune that makes the two cars similar in speed in a straight line. There is no advantage to be had for the RS4.

My love for the TTRS sparked this, to be honest. I really want one…

#11

LOL where was a I wrong? You keep talking about and originally flew off the handle about a STOCK rS4.

I mentioned to jared that an RS4 with full bolt ons should be door handle to door handle with a stock TTRS

you are completely off topic and turning this into a TTRS vs. RS4 thread for no fucking reason other than to be a big shot and to take sakimano down. Way to go tweets.

tweets, slow down, read the posts and don’t get so volatile and emotional.

p.s. Car & Driver, lightning lap, were a few years apart, with a totally new crew of drivers. The european magazines use the same drivers. And when Audi puts out a lap time you seriously think they’ve got some random driver? lol

#12

oh so you have aTTRS?

oh wait, so you were fantasizing about owning one? What the fuck is this a joke?

great. STock TTRS vs. stock RS4 you are right. The TTRS has an edge. Nobody here argued that. JHM the RS4, that edge is gone.

[quote]I was very frustrated to see no one notice what saki said was BS. The TTRS is more comparable around a road course with the R8 V8 than the RS4. Ask anyone who has driven either
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irrelevant. We’re talking about an RS4 with a 40 WHP bump and improved dynamics in the tune. I don’t give a fuck what a stock Rs4 does.

[quote] also ask anyone who was at the track that day the AMD RS4 stage 1 was there (there is a rumor there was a JHM car there as well) about the TTRS around a track VS the rS4 stock let alone a tune that makes the two cars similar in speed in a straight line. There is no advantage to be had for the RS4.
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irrelevant jibberish about NOTHING to do with the topic at hand. You really suck at this. Just stay focused and answer the questions.

Or better yet, pose your questions to me in a calm and deliberate fashion, and I will show you evidence to support my answers. Then you will need to do the same…not just ‘I THINK THE TTRS IS GREAT!’

Stop the yelling and name calling and emotional fillibustering. Focus on the facts

Show me the fastest STOCK quarter mile times for the TTRS. I’ve already shown you the fastest JHM bolt on RS4 times.

#13

He actually never said beat…annihilate…or anything like that, but there you go again not reading. Hope you drive or sing and dance better than you read.

#14

That is stock, by car and driver.
I am speaking in terms of our standing you having the tuned car me having the TTRS. I wasn’t speaking stock, I was speaking of the difference inherited in stock v stock could not be over come by a tune.

Not when it is as fast as an R8 according multiple publications, when the R8 is in fact a street legal race car with the same engine and weighs less. You tell me, is it a monster? Well monster is a relative term, is it a far better road course car? Yes! It makes 360 up and as on the ass of the R8 for less of the cost new of an R8 or an RS4.

#15

the car and driver test was done with a pbox on a race track. I hope you know this…

anywya, show me the 3 best quarter mile times from stock TTRS

I’m waiting…and I don’t think you want me to get them for you, because you’ll cry that I’m not being fair.

#16

I have nothing to add hear… Just can’t wait to get my chick car(that’s what all of the cool S4 owners on AZ call it), err I mean TT-RS…

I do know the fastest TT-RS is about a tenth quicker and 2-3mph faster in the 1/4 than the TTRS RS4 but I know that isn’t what this is about so carry on…

Oh and I will be at the top of that stock and modified 1/4 mile list for the TT-RS, just may take some time… Of course I need the damn car fist… LOL

#17

Ii have test the ttrs ( manual)with my vbox , exact same place where I did the b6 s4

This is what I got

0-100km 4,6 seg 0-60 mph 4.2 seg
0-402 mts 12,8 at 106,8 mph

I will look at the vbox file and post other info.

#18

You’re getting one?

#19

Just take that chick car to the track Prime…you’ll have a blast. I’ve said it many times, most people who actually go to the track aren’t worried about how fast their car lap-time wise, or if they will keep up with other cars or not, even in the “red” group. There’s too much going on

I haven’t seen a fast stock or engine-modified 4-door Audi at the tracks I go, if R8 performance is considered the fast benchmark, at any track. FWIW my stock NSX is 6-7 seconds faster at Mosport than my B8 S4, both have sticky buns on them, but somehow the magazine test articles at the 'ring don’t reflect this…they say the B8 S4 is faster…lol.

Serious question, who has had their cars at the track, and what lap times did you set? I’ll start, my NSX does a 1:39 at Mosport and a 1:21 at Cayuga. My B8 S4 does a 1:46 at Mosport (stock) and a 1:24/1:25 at Cayuga (stage II 100 tune/stock). I’ve seen an R8 V10 do a 1:33 at Mosport with street tires.

#20

I would love to square off with you when I get mine… Hopefully by summer 2014 is when I plan on picking one up.

#21

Not quite 12.1

Insideline Audi TT-RS 2.5 TFSI test numbers - 13.0@105.6 1/4 mile

Insideline did a quick test video of the USA TT-RS. Our version only comes in 6-speed manual which is a bit of a bummer as the DSG would no doubt put up quicker numbers. Insideline managed to hit 0-60 in 4.3 seconds and the 1/4 mile came in a rather disappointing 13.0@105.6. They were testing on a very hot summer day in Southern California with what appeared to be a VBOX so one should keep that in mind.Car and Driver hit 12.1@113 with a 0-60 of 3.6 which is a huge difference. That car was a DSG vehicle with launch control however and likely tested in better weather.The handling numbers are a respectable 68.2 mph in the slalom and .91g on the skidpad. Insideline states that the car feels numb however and is sort of a dull instrument.AudiBoost really likes the car it just is a bit of a downer that it only comes in the coupe form and only with the 6-Speed in the USA. Still, better than nothing.

#22

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Yes, ordered in early Feb. Will be here in early/mid May… Sepang, tech pack, heated seats… Got 5% off + owner loyalty… Can’t wait… Drove the S4 this weekend and am itching to drag race… Hurry up APR I want a new blower also! LOL

#23

A Vbox if I am correct. 1. I didn’t start this as a thread 2. The title should be “on a track” the 1/4 was a side note. 3. I’m hearing from people at that track event that the said TTRS has been laying down better times than the local JHM tuned RS4. I can’t confirm it.

#24

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Good for you!!

#25

http://fastestlaps.com/cars/audi_tt-rs_coupe.html 12.1@113 there’s 1
Most likely a cross reference
Here is another http://www.dragtimes.com/Audi--TT-Drag-Racing.html
12.7x at 112.2 seems right in the hunt. I’m confident prime stabs at 114mph and I bet he gets close to DSG ETs

#26

OP - what the fuck is the point of this thread? I’ve read it twice and I can’t find a single logical argument out of all of your posts.

#27

Here is my case. And last comment

It is known the TTRS is a better handling. Fact
At similar trap (and in one account et) speeds it will not be faster around a track.

Simple logic.
You said they would be door to door around a track, come on saki, think about it. Also when you ask anyone who has driven both cars you will hear them say the TTRS is superior. Eg making them as fast as each other in a straight line does not make them equal on the road course.