JHM tune/exhaust RS4 vs. TTRS - who would win?

B6/7 S4/RS4
#1

This, is the biggest load I have heard in a long time. The TTRS stock as less than a tenth slower than the V8 R8 on the track according to road and track tests. You’re trying to say a heavier car with the same engine, that doesn’t handle even close to what the R8 does, would be faster than the R8 with a TUNE N/A? This is car blasphemy saki. Get with it dude, stop trying to back handily knock down something you just have “hear-say” on.

Oh and even if and when the kit does out perform your expectations, I know you will still find something that you don’t like or agree with and beat that drum as hard as you have for B5 owners.

You wanna know why hunter doesn’t come around any more?? People like you who are so hard headed and don’t do anything to make a forum a community. At least I have the chance to help newbies on audizine, here anyone who isn’t inline with you are SLAUGHTERED.

Either way, if the car is as fast it what I would bet as faster than a V10 R8 around the track on the stage 1 kit, I’d say that’s pretty impressive.

#2

Also, I would bet in a straight line your car is not a car ahead of a TTRS they usually end up mid-low 12s trapping low 1teens mph. Again, BOGUS

#3

Let’s look at some TTRS vs. RS4 laptimes then…and let’s not forget I said a JHM tuned + full exhaust RS4. a.k.a. a car making about 360 WHP and 310 WTQ…not a stock RS4 that has been ignored for 6 years. Come back to me when the TTRS runs the nurburgring in 7:40 seconds because that’s what it would need to do to annhilllate an RS4 (7:59-8:05 for the RS4 tests). In fact the RS4 was quite a bit faster than the TTRS at the nurburgring and that was a bone stock RS4. Give that diver another 40 whp and 40 WTQ to play with and a throttle that makes a time attack more fun and you don’t think that gap is going to grow!!!

On the shorter tracks, the TTRS is either equal to, or 1-2 seconds quicker than a STOCK RS4. Again, are you sure about your facts??
Lap Times (10)
Track RS4 TT RS Coupe
Nordschleife 7:58.00 8:09.00
Tsukuba 1:08.36 1:06.27
Hockenheim Short 1:15.40 1:13.10
Virginia International Raceway 3:11.20 3:04.80
Autozeitung test track 1:41.30 1:41.80
SportAuto wet handling test 1:27.50 1:37.20
Inta 1:14.95 1:12.76
Autocar Dry Handling Track 1:16.90 1:15.10
Killarney 1:31.30 1:25.40
Ring Knutstrop (Conf 2) 1:14.50 1:21.30 w

If AMD kicks ass with the kit, I will 100% cheer for it and congratulate them. Just like I did with APR. Just like I did with TTS. Those two companies both had limp wristed fanboys calling me a hater and saying exactly what you just said…‘oh you won’t be satisfied with anything’.

That’s what’s different between us tweets. I really don’t have any time for bullshit, but I appreciate success and will congratulate people for it. You on the other hand wouldn’t know success if it bonked you over the head, so you never know what to say. You will cheer like fuck for AMD even though they have honestly done fuck all for you. let’s be realistic. They ‘fixed’ your mess of a car, and it fucking blew up immediately. Now they’re fixing their mistakes. Great! It’s been a year right? Instead you shit on JHM or whomever is not AMD. You thinly veil your shitting with ‘my brother’s jhm car is great!’, then you go on audizine and shit all over JHM whenever you can when protected by the B5 section’s uninformed masses. I support JHM and I used to look pretty one dimensional when doing so because let’s face it…I owned a B6/7 S4 and a B7 RS4. THERE WAS NOBODY ELSE! Now that other options are showing up, i will totally support those who do the right thing and have success. Fanboys like you hate the thought though…much easier to paint me as a hater.

#4

WHat are you freaking out about?

This is what Saki said if you can read…and somehow your brining his bone stock RS4 into this against a TTRS…

#5

and my car is bone stock, so how is that even remotely relevant? RTFS reid. FOCYS!

Here’s what JHM bolt on RS4s have done in the quarter mile. Still think it’s not even close?

jnaut 12.26 @ 112.98
george2000S4 12.28 @ 112.45
dan@jhm 12.29 @ 111

#6

He has vicious A.D.D. euro. He can not take his time enough to read and fairly interpret facts. Fortunately the majoity of the forum sees the reality of the situation.

#7

Just to add, Jnaut was stock tune on that pass, which is why many believe that a full bolt-on JHM tuned RS4 has high 11s in it…so I think the facts suck of your tweetybird

I can’t wait until NY07RS4 hits the track soon

#8

Looks quite a bit faster, and before you argue that those times were set by the DSG, remember what you said, trap doesn’t change much, if at all so I still have a better trap than you!
Forgot that?

First of all the car and driver test is one guy driving the cars, not multiple people with different talent levels.
Second of all, if the track is a more open track it would make less sense that the inherently faster car that handles better on a tight track would be slower. Times are null and void if they aren’t the same driver. Every magazine had the RS4 slower than the TTRS in every performance category.

No what makes us different is I forgive people and I humble my self when I am wrong. Everyone makes mistakes, not everyone admits and apologizes, you do neither of the latter.

AR is polluted with your twisted words and twisted facts.

#9

yet for some reason you and guys like jibberjive can’t stay away. Stepping in to argue on AMDs behalf about an RS4 supercharger and Saki’s comments about the TTRS.

Why does it take them so long to build B5s? Serious question, haven’t you been waiting forever? I only ask because we have a local POS import tuning place that take cars and let them sit for months, while charging those customers they spend their time hooking up friends cars and their own cars. I know things don’t happen over night, but it’s not like building a B5 S4 is something new.

#10

In a year having the silver car Jason built it twice and delivered it. It’s actually pretty good considering he is the only one there.
Building cars always takes patience, and he backs his product. That’s pretty good. I’ve dealt with 3 companies with just the B5, I’ve dealt with multiple companies overall, including wheel 2 wheel that Chrisk worked at. I knew people there well. They put a supercharger on my truck, made horrible power until I insisted to add boost it took them
Months to put on a bolt-on-blower. Blew up 2 transmissions and they continued to give me a crappy torque converter solution.

Every, I will repeat, EVERY company has its fallbacks and problems. I choose to stay with Jason for many reasons because I know no company is perfect. And he delivers a product that kicks butt and he backs it.

I commented on this thread only because of him saying a tuned RS4 would beat a TTRS around a track. I have been researching the car for months. It is a far superior handling car than the RS4 and is comparable in speed. I was very frustrated to see no one notice what saki said was BS. The TTRS is more comparable around a road course with the R8 V8 than the RS4. Ask anyone who has driven either, also ask anyone who was at the track that day the AMD RS4 stage 1 was there (there is a rumor there was a JHM car there as well) about the TTRS around a track VS the rS4 stock let alone a tune that makes the two cars similar in speed in a straight line. There is no advantage to be had for the RS4.

My love for the TTRS sparked this, to be honest. I really want one…

#11

LOL where was a I wrong? You keep talking about and originally flew off the handle about a STOCK rS4.

I mentioned to jared that an RS4 with full bolt ons should be door handle to door handle with a stock TTRS

you are completely off topic and turning this into a TTRS vs. RS4 thread for no fucking reason other than to be a big shot and to take sakimano down. Way to go tweets.

tweets, slow down, read the posts and don’t get so volatile and emotional.

p.s. Car & Driver, lightning lap, were a few years apart, with a totally new crew of drivers. The european magazines use the same drivers. And when Audi puts out a lap time you seriously think they’ve got some random driver? lol

#12

oh so you have aTTRS?

oh wait, so you were fantasizing about owning one? What the fuck is this a joke?

great. STock TTRS vs. stock RS4 you are right. The TTRS has an edge. Nobody here argued that. JHM the RS4, that edge is gone.

[quote]I was very frustrated to see no one notice what saki said was BS. The TTRS is more comparable around a road course with the R8 V8 than the RS4. Ask anyone who has driven either
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irrelevant. We’re talking about an RS4 with a 40 WHP bump and improved dynamics in the tune. I don’t give a fuck what a stock Rs4 does.

[quote] also ask anyone who was at the track that day the AMD RS4 stage 1 was there (there is a rumor there was a JHM car there as well) about the TTRS around a track VS the rS4 stock let alone a tune that makes the two cars similar in speed in a straight line. There is no advantage to be had for the RS4.
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irrelevant jibberish about NOTHING to do with the topic at hand. You really suck at this. Just stay focused and answer the questions.

Or better yet, pose your questions to me in a calm and deliberate fashion, and I will show you evidence to support my answers. Then you will need to do the same…not just ‘I THINK THE TTRS IS GREAT!’

Stop the yelling and name calling and emotional fillibustering. Focus on the facts

Show me the fastest STOCK quarter mile times for the TTRS. I’ve already shown you the fastest JHM bolt on RS4 times.

#13

He actually never said beat…annihilate…or anything like that, but there you go again not reading. Hope you drive or sing and dance better than you read.

#14

That is stock, by car and driver.
I am speaking in terms of our standing you having the tuned car me having the TTRS. I wasn’t speaking stock, I was speaking of the difference inherited in stock v stock could not be over come by a tune.

Not when it is as fast as an R8 according multiple publications, when the R8 is in fact a street legal race car with the same engine and weighs less. You tell me, is it a monster? Well monster is a relative term, is it a far better road course car? Yes! It makes 360 up and as on the ass of the R8 for less of the cost new of an R8 or an RS4.

#15

the car and driver test was done with a pbox on a race track. I hope you know this…

anywya, show me the 3 best quarter mile times from stock TTRS

I’m waiting…and I don’t think you want me to get them for you, because you’ll cry that I’m not being fair.

#16

I have nothing to add hear… Just can’t wait to get my chick car(that’s what all of the cool S4 owners on AZ call it), err I mean TT-RS…

I do know the fastest TT-RS is about a tenth quicker and 2-3mph faster in the 1/4 than the TTRS RS4 but I know that isn’t what this is about so carry on…

Oh and I will be at the top of that stock and modified 1/4 mile list for the TT-RS, just may take some time… Of course I need the damn car fist… LOL

#17

Ii have test the ttrs ( manual)with my vbox , exact same place where I did the b6 s4

This is what I got

0-100km 4,6 seg 0-60 mph 4.2 seg
0-402 mts 12,8 at 106,8 mph

I will look at the vbox file and post other info.

#18

You’re getting one?

#19

Just take that chick car to the track Prime…you’ll have a blast. I’ve said it many times, most people who actually go to the track aren’t worried about how fast their car lap-time wise, or if they will keep up with other cars or not, even in the “red” group. There’s too much going on

I haven’t seen a fast stock or engine-modified 4-door Audi at the tracks I go, if R8 performance is considered the fast benchmark, at any track. FWIW my stock NSX is 6-7 seconds faster at Mosport than my B8 S4, both have sticky buns on them, but somehow the magazine test articles at the 'ring don’t reflect this…they say the B8 S4 is faster…lol.

Serious question, who has had their cars at the track, and what lap times did you set? I’ll start, my NSX does a 1:39 at Mosport and a 1:21 at Cayuga. My B8 S4 does a 1:46 at Mosport (stock) and a 1:24/1:25 at Cayuga (stage II 100 tune/stock). I’ve seen an R8 V10 do a 1:33 at Mosport with street tires.

#20

I would love to square off with you when I get mine… Hopefully by summer 2014 is when I plan on picking one up.