saki…what is your issue with mick…is it cock envy or do you hate the fact that he actually has a nice car w/ good mods?
well…we have the same car. His has about 20,000 more miles on it than mine, and turns out his is kinda slow. So, I like my car better. To each his own.
What are these ‘nice mods’ that mick has that I’m jealous of?
Wheels? Well he basically runs stock wheels or some cheap track wheels (good ones, but certainly not worthy of jealousy).
Tune/Exhaust - well those are no good I thought…? So why would I be jealous of those?
Suspension? - I kind of like DRC just the way it is, but his car looks nice and low. Of course when you’re smashing your exhaust on stuff, being low stops sounding quite so cool…especially for me when I live in a place that gets a foot of snow a few days a year
Paint? - maybe you mean that groovy ti package paint colour he painted his trim? That does look cool…but it’s paint.
Intake spacers - I’m jealous of those. They’re a great part.
Speed? - certainly not. Mick’s car seems to constantly have issues. When he went to the dragstrip his traptimes were always a good bit below where they ought to be for his mods (whether stock, mildly modded or fully modded as he is now)
So there you have it. I’m jealous of his intake spacers. A $160 part. That’s what has led me to slap mick back into reality all these times over the years. Oh…and his racing suit that he wears to HPDE. That’s another thing I wish I had…a fireproof racing suit.
Truth though? Mick came after JHM a long time ago for something that was totally not their fault (his shop charged him over and over and over when they couldn’t install his JHM shifter) and he would bring that up to hurt JHM whenever he could. I always thought that was really lame. He did it again when that same shop couldn’t install his JHM clutch. I mean why you’d go back there after they couldn’t install a shifter (but charged $1000 for it!) I have no idea but hey…they have shiny floors and work on Porsches, so they must be good right? Anyway, he eventually relented on the forums and admitted his shop was FUCKED and that he had done JHM wrong, and when he did I reached out to him and cleared the air (or thought I did) and left it alone. I actualy stuck up for him on quattrofail under REVLIS SUVA when the B5 and B8 hounds were slamming him. Of course he continued to trash talk me behind close doors and on quattrofail, but that’s another story.
This past year he bought his JHM stuff and actually spoke well of the company, but this past few weeks with his bullshit about the tune, when in fact all of his ‘issues’ were from his car being in shit shape and getting beat on, not the damn tune…and the one where he logged his car IDLING and showed lean spikes then started a thread freaking about how lean his JHM tune was (suddenly, even though the file was written ages ago and worked flawlessly until he had problems that were maintenance related). Truth is his car showed those spikes because the car shuts off the injectors when you get off the throttle with no load. It spikes lean, then normalises…and this is true on a stock or JHM tuned or GIAC tuned car. Or a Honda Accord.
So I like the JHM guys, and I hate seeing people make unfounded accusations against them. Want to complain how fucking slow they are to return calls and process emails? I’m with you on that, and when mick bitches about that, I say nothing because I’ve been there. Ask count vohn and jay@jhm and Dan about how I blow up their fucking email (v8@jhmotorsports.com) when I see people getting shit service on the forums. If I’m going to stand up for these guys, I’ll also let them know that they’re not doing what they need to. I guarantee I’ve bitched them out more than Mick and the rest of the quattroworld guys COMBINED. Just ask them. But if you want to question their parts to explain away your car’s problems, or your shop’s problems, I think someone should call you out on that.
p.s. my car just did this today. It’s bone stock, has never been carbon cleaned in 35,000 miles, and was full weight, full interior etc. (as the video will show later this week when its up). Considering that mick has never run ANYWHERE NEAR that time (12.75), and only trapped 1 MPH more than my car, when he had JHM tune/clutch./flywheel/exhaust…which we know should be good for 12.2-12.4 @ 111-112…well it’s pretty clear that there’s no fucking way I’d want Mick’s car. It’s a slow lemon.
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Saki…at least you did not come at me being a dick or anything…even though I was being one 
I am a little disappointed on the exhaust scraping speed bumps. Lots of ppl go Stasis MS on these cars and I think it somewhat sucks that the exhaust scrapes speed bumps. But I got an extra set of down pipes from someone that has his car lowered and the flex connectors were frayed a little.
I am going to be getting those intake spacers by the end of the month. I think they cost more than $160.
the problem with the ride height thing is strange…jay likes his cars SLAMMED so I can’t see that sneaking through ‘quality control’.
George (2000S4 username) who ran 12.2 @ 112 is WAY lower than mick I bet. He was 1.75*2.0" lower than stock, AND riding on tires that were 0.5" shorter than stock (so that’s like another 0.25" lowering) and I never heard a scrape from him in all the times. You can see his car in the September calender picture…it’s looow. Maybe he can chime in. I’ll text him.
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As for me not coming at you, honestly swesna you’re just a guy who jumps on the bandwagon and bashes me with mick and the quattroworld guys. I really don’t have the energy to care. If you ever take a moment to read what I post and think I’m wrong, tell me. So often I hear these guys who say they hate what I post, but its amazing how guys don’t refute what I post. I guess it’s damaging to hear someone speak the truth without a filter. I am sure not like that in real life, but on the forums it just happens. I’m also pretty loyal to guys I consider friends, and am also very supportive of ANYONE who is doing good stuff for our cars, not just JHM (go ask TTS who has posted their 11.4 @ 125 all over the place lol). However the quattroworld line on me is ‘rabid JHM fanboy’. I even heard mick hint that I may have mods on my car to run the times I am running. Let’s think abotu that…if I’m such a rabid and one-sided JHM fanboy, wouldn’t it be in JHM’s best interest for me to NOT run 12.75 when I’m stock? That only makes their parts have to work harder to show delta. Wouldn’t it make sense for me to complain about how carbon buildup slows your car down like crazy…rather than run 12.75 when I have 35,000 miles of carbon…since it would hurt JHM’s attempts to sell the Carbonator, their CBU solution? It’s funny, the only people who have had objections to my good stock times are people who can’t drive their car for shit (thus try to denounce any stock times that are in the 12s) or people who want to keep blaming carbon buildup for ‘ruining’ the RS4. I don’t have time for either of those groups.
Anyone with the ability to read the facts can see that I like good companies, good parts that work, and good honest people. I hate the opposites and don’t mind saying so on forums.
saki…based on the other thread many are having similar issues with the jhm clutch
“He did it again when that same shop couldn’t install his JHM clutch.”
maybe if you were unfortunate and had the same issues you may have thought it was the clutch too and not the install. but i do agree if someone could not put my shifter in i would not have taken my car to get a clutch installed by them to begin with.
like who? You’re new so i’ll give you the benefit of the doubt since you don’t know the story at all.
go check my reply to your post about gibsonl since it seems you read only sparingly, then make your opinion. Try to get all the facts… Making half informed statements that are injurious to the reputation of a business is not very responsible behaviour. You’re fucking with peoples livelihoods here.
saki…i have no clue on how big of an org jhm is or not. but i am thinking it is probably small and if they shut down tomorrow i would hope the ppl there would have the ability to get a job.
i never fear being unemployed bc i know i have the ability to get another job…it is called skillz to pay the billz.
you worry too much about JHMs reputation for some reason…you claim because they are your friends. shit your ass is living close to ghetto detroit in toronto (which i am sure is much nicer than detroit). just had to drop detroit in there since i worked there before and know it is close to toronto.
shit i am sure your friends if they are good would get scooped up by another employer. what i was basically saying was the other thread here seemed to be about clutch issues around jhm clutches…was i not reading that correctly?
hey i heard only one of your nuts has dropped, so you are gentle on your clutch. maybe when you get some ballz you will be able to shit your car like you stole it…ie like elevens
I defend JHM because they make good shit. I bought a bunch of their stuff and liked it, then met them and they are good guys. I don’t understand all the Toronto/Detroit talk.
For a guy who knows, as near as makes no difference, fuck all about JHM or their parts or the cars they make them for, you seem pretty motivated to talk shit about their products on forums. Maybe we should talk about that?
i actually have not had any experience with jhm products but am interested in the lwfw/stg 3/4 clutch and intake spacers.
was interested in the tune/exhaust but they can not deliver either.
i have nothing against jhm and was just making a statement that the other thread regarding clutches are all jhm clutches. that is it. my preference is for them to be successful bc they do make stuff for my car.
i do enjoy busting your ball since only one has dropped. also, you dont know what i know about cars.
the scary thing is that you don’t know what you don’t know.
Swansea, what’s all this testicle business about?
his sense of humour is…tired
I made a joke on aw when elevens said ‘grow some balls and powershift’ and I said ‘I have two balls but only one has dropped so far’.
I think the fact it. JHM has the most clutches sold by any company for the 4.2 Perioud. Seems people who have clutch issues all have the same issues. Most 95% of them have come back to be install error. THIS IS NOT DIFFERENT IN THE DOMESTIC market. JHM sells tons of parts so they are going to see the most fire.
You can’t talk shit on saki for not driving hard he has the fastest RS4 on record.
You act like saki is the one and only guy who defends JHM. Its the longest list and the longest line of support for any company. While I don’t care if you get scammed into some sub par parts you can’t say you were not told so before it happened.
Fact is mick and ben look super shady on shit and no one hold them accountable for talking and blaming JHM. I for one have seen tons of offerings for tons of cars. what jhm does and what they offer seems to be most people know ligit stuff when they see it.
Seems others are collectivly cought up on hype and hand play
I thought we were talking about cars. Are you sure you’re on the right website?
Lol thank you apat.
Must be a quattroworld thing. Maybe that why the OT section spawned wayOT.org/forums or whatever it is…so they could keep their knob and bollocks chat private.
I can barely even tell what the hell this guy is trying to say… It blows my mind that someone who can’t effectively communicate a thought, or type a legible sentence, is somehow able to own an RS4.
I really hope AR doesn’t start getting filled up with people like this. This site is an escape from the idiocy of all the other sites.
don’t worry BWT…guys who don’t get it won’t last here. They’ll quickly scurry back to their more comfortable homes.
Well I logged my car today…sitting in the garage…100% bone stock RS4…idling and then revving up to about 4000 RPMs like mick did. Logging 031 on VAGcom (Lambda ACTUAL and Lambda SPECIFIED).
Well, as it turns out, JHM has somehow snuck into my house and tuned my car too. IT’S SPIKING LEAN OH NO! WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS TO ME???
As mentioned earlier in the thread, the 2.0x ACTUAL lambda levels Mick was seeing (a.k.a. 2.0 x requested) when you are under no load and rev it then get off the throttle is TOTALLY NORMAL. This is because when you let off the throttle, the injectors on your car shut off, which makes the reading appear to spike lean momentarily. There are a number of reasons the car does that, but in any event, I just thought I’d show my logs to put a nail in this ugly coffin. Finally got my new VAGcom cable in after losing the old one.
I think Mick attributed this to his vacuum leaks (well…first he blamed JHM…then he found he had a vacuum leak or two). If he does this (useless) test again, he’ll find he is still seeing the same 1.9-2.0 x lambda actual when he lets of the throttle in neutral with no load after revving the engine.
Stock 2008 RS4 Lambda Specified and Lambda Actual vs. RPM in neutral (CLICK IMAGE BELOW TO ENLARGE)l
Saki the 2.0 x level is not where the issue was its with the car running above 1.1 on average idle and under load. I logged more than just this plot.
You are correct, the issue was 2 vac leaks. Not the tune. The tuen only had input to this in that it runs closer to the upper limits, and it actually probably helped me detect the vac leaks earlier than i normally would have.
Excuse my overreacting on the tune, I have talked with Dan and the guys at JHM about this and I apologized to them for my initial reaction which was half the reason I was upset about the tune. The other half was of course as you know the issue with the SAI, but true to their word, the guys stepped up, got me a fix, and I am no longer looking at bleeding money for somethign I shouldn’t have to.
I hope you understand when a dealer and a tech and others tell you that its lean because of a tune, and/or the SAI needs to be replaced at a cost of $1200, and/or engines are blowing up because of going lean, you tend to get a bit worried. I certainly wish I could have filtered all the advice a bit better.
Anyways enough of that, lets get back to hating each other! haha