I’m thinking this SHOULD be addressed from a different perspective. Wouldn’t it be great if we had real answers with clear reasons backing them up? It would put so MANY threads to rest. It would help JHM in the end if the details were shared in layment terms. My $.02.
P.S. Helping here (AR) is a good idea.
no idea what that means. He’ll spin his wheels on quattrofail for days, getting angry at JHM, getting the rest of them angry at JHM, then he’ll take it to Futrell or an Audi dealer and pay them $1000 to try to figure it out. That will suit mick just fine, and frankly I think that’s fine for AR too. It’s just a funny show to watch.
anyway, beemercer laid it all out on the table for mick, explaining mick’s questions from the OP…but rather than read what beem wrote and understand it, he decided to instead:
[quote=mickf29]One day right side, next day left side, next day both are lean!
First thing they are checking tomorrow is vacuum leaks. Hope that nails it. if not we move on to fueling. If not, then sensors.
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I guess since beemercer explained away the reason the ECU is doing what it is doing, it was easier for mick to talk about completely different items in an effort to keep his ‘JHM IS BAD’ crusade going. This really makes me laugh.
As for his car falling on its face, there’s a very compelling dyno chart that he posted on quattrofail that is SCREAMING what the answer is.
If JHM has anything to do with it, their new employee Drew is extremely helpful. Everytime I have gotten a CEL since my tune he says “scan the code & e-mail it to me” he is extremely willing to help any 4.2L JHM customer out.
Like others mentioned 13.1 AFR on the dyno seems pretty damn reasonable to me
What’s not to understand???
Beemercer: “saw this on qw, I figured I’d post it here so CV, jfonz, snowtrooper and some of the other guys who have experience tuning bosch ecus could comment:”
Plain English - Some misinformed people are throwing wild variables around as fact or potential causes for lean conditions and or other tune related issues. Beemercer tried to help by evaluating those comments and addressing them. Then Beemercer suggested some folks more involved and well informed in the tuning arena chime in. You (Saki) comment and basically imply not to help that one individual (mick)…well not help him on QW. I comment and state I think the topic should be addressed, here on AR. I feel if we heard facts from the tune builder (CV) and some further supporting facts from others in the know, it would help clear the air with many of the misconceptions and accusations flying around the forums.
You wording was very odd and vague NY. That’s why I said that
And yes, I say don’t try to help him, especially over on quattrofail. As beem learned, what’s the point? The guy thinks that anyone who posts here is a moron and is only interested in saying jhm is the greatest. He’s nuts. I will enjoy watching him spend hundreds if not thousands of his dollars chasing this item, and using JHM as a scapegoat for his poorly running car.
Frankly the answers are already posted on quattroworld, by beem, and inadvertantly by mick himself. If he chooses to not figure that out, that’s his prerogative…and my entertainment.
I will log my stock car tomorrow to show you guys something relating to this mick claim about his tune… I would have done this tonight however I’ve lost my vagcom cable
lol
so theres part a
part b tomrw
saki…what is your issue with mick…is it cock envy or do you hate the fact that he actually has a nice car w/ good mods?
well…we have the same car. His has about 20,000 more miles on it than mine, and turns out his is kinda slow. So, I like my car better. To each his own.
What are these ‘nice mods’ that mick has that I’m jealous of?
Wheels? Well he basically runs stock wheels or some cheap track wheels (good ones, but certainly not worthy of jealousy).
Tune/Exhaust - well those are no good I thought…? So why would I be jealous of those?
Suspension? - I kind of like DRC just the way it is, but his car looks nice and low. Of course when you’re smashing your exhaust on stuff, being low stops sounding quite so cool…especially for me when I live in a place that gets a foot of snow a few days a year
Paint? - maybe you mean that groovy ti package paint colour he painted his trim? That does look cool…but it’s paint.
Intake spacers - I’m jealous of those. They’re a great part.
Speed? - certainly not. Mick’s car seems to constantly have issues. When he went to the dragstrip his traptimes were always a good bit below where they ought to be for his mods (whether stock, mildly modded or fully modded as he is now)
So there you have it. I’m jealous of his intake spacers. A $160 part. That’s what has led me to slap mick back into reality all these times over the years. Oh…and his racing suit that he wears to HPDE. That’s another thing I wish I had…a fireproof racing suit.
Truth though? Mick came after JHM a long time ago for something that was totally not their fault (his shop charged him over and over and over when they couldn’t install his JHM shifter) and he would bring that up to hurt JHM whenever he could. I always thought that was really lame. He did it again when that same shop couldn’t install his JHM clutch. I mean why you’d go back there after they couldn’t install a shifter (but charged $1000 for it!) I have no idea but hey…they have shiny floors and work on Porsches, so they must be good right? Anyway, he eventually relented on the forums and admitted his shop was FUCKED and that he had done JHM wrong, and when he did I reached out to him and cleared the air (or thought I did) and left it alone. I actualy stuck up for him on quattrofail under REVLIS SUVA when the B5 and B8 hounds were slamming him. Of course he continued to trash talk me behind close doors and on quattrofail, but that’s another story.
This past year he bought his JHM stuff and actually spoke well of the company, but this past few weeks with his bullshit about the tune, when in fact all of his ‘issues’ were from his car being in shit shape and getting beat on, not the damn tune…and the one where he logged his car IDLING and showed lean spikes then started a thread freaking about how lean his JHM tune was (suddenly, even though the file was written ages ago and worked flawlessly until he had problems that were maintenance related). Truth is his car showed those spikes because the car shuts off the injectors when you get off the throttle with no load. It spikes lean, then normalises…and this is true on a stock or JHM tuned or GIAC tuned car. Or a Honda Accord.
So I like the JHM guys, and I hate seeing people make unfounded accusations against them. Want to complain how fucking slow they are to return calls and process emails? I’m with you on that, and when mick bitches about that, I say nothing because I’ve been there. Ask count vohn and jay@jhm and Dan about how I blow up their fucking email (v8@jhmotorsports.com) when I see people getting shit service on the forums. If I’m going to stand up for these guys, I’ll also let them know that they’re not doing what they need to. I guarantee I’ve bitched them out more than Mick and the rest of the quattroworld guys COMBINED. Just ask them. But if you want to question their parts to explain away your car’s problems, or your shop’s problems, I think someone should call you out on that.
p.s. my car just did this today. It’s bone stock, has never been carbon cleaned in 35,000 miles, and was full weight, full interior etc. (as the video will show later this week when its up). Considering that mick has never run ANYWHERE NEAR that time (12.75), and only trapped 1 MPH more than my car, when he had JHM tune/clutch./flywheel/exhaust…which we know should be good for 12.2-12.4 @ 111-112…well it’s pretty clear that there’s no fucking way I’d want Mick’s car. It’s a slow lemon.
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Saki…at least you did not come at me being a dick or anything…even though I was being one 
I am a little disappointed on the exhaust scraping speed bumps. Lots of ppl go Stasis MS on these cars and I think it somewhat sucks that the exhaust scrapes speed bumps. But I got an extra set of down pipes from someone that has his car lowered and the flex connectors were frayed a little.
I am going to be getting those intake spacers by the end of the month. I think they cost more than $160.
the problem with the ride height thing is strange…jay likes his cars SLAMMED so I can’t see that sneaking through ‘quality control’.
George (2000S4 username) who ran 12.2 @ 112 is WAY lower than mick I bet. He was 1.75*2.0" lower than stock, AND riding on tires that were 0.5" shorter than stock (so that’s like another 0.25" lowering) and I never heard a scrape from him in all the times. You can see his car in the September calender picture…it’s looow. Maybe he can chime in. I’ll text him.
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As for me not coming at you, honestly swesna you’re just a guy who jumps on the bandwagon and bashes me with mick and the quattroworld guys. I really don’t have the energy to care. If you ever take a moment to read what I post and think I’m wrong, tell me. So often I hear these guys who say they hate what I post, but its amazing how guys don’t refute what I post. I guess it’s damaging to hear someone speak the truth without a filter. I am sure not like that in real life, but on the forums it just happens. I’m also pretty loyal to guys I consider friends, and am also very supportive of ANYONE who is doing good stuff for our cars, not just JHM (go ask TTS who has posted their 11.4 @ 125 all over the place lol). However the quattroworld line on me is ‘rabid JHM fanboy’. I even heard mick hint that I may have mods on my car to run the times I am running. Let’s think abotu that…if I’m such a rabid and one-sided JHM fanboy, wouldn’t it be in JHM’s best interest for me to NOT run 12.75 when I’m stock? That only makes their parts have to work harder to show delta. Wouldn’t it make sense for me to complain about how carbon buildup slows your car down like crazy…rather than run 12.75 when I have 35,000 miles of carbon…since it would hurt JHM’s attempts to sell the Carbonator, their CBU solution? It’s funny, the only people who have had objections to my good stock times are people who can’t drive their car for shit (thus try to denounce any stock times that are in the 12s) or people who want to keep blaming carbon buildup for ‘ruining’ the RS4. I don’t have time for either of those groups.
Anyone with the ability to read the facts can see that I like good companies, good parts that work, and good honest people. I hate the opposites and don’t mind saying so on forums.
saki…based on the other thread many are having similar issues with the jhm clutch
“He did it again when that same shop couldn’t install his JHM clutch.”
maybe if you were unfortunate and had the same issues you may have thought it was the clutch too and not the install. but i do agree if someone could not put my shifter in i would not have taken my car to get a clutch installed by them to begin with.
like who? You’re new so i’ll give you the benefit of the doubt since you don’t know the story at all.
go check my reply to your post about gibsonl since it seems you read only sparingly, then make your opinion. Try to get all the facts… Making half informed statements that are injurious to the reputation of a business is not very responsible behaviour. You’re fucking with peoples livelihoods here.
saki…i have no clue on how big of an org jhm is or not. but i am thinking it is probably small and if they shut down tomorrow i would hope the ppl there would have the ability to get a job.
i never fear being unemployed bc i know i have the ability to get another job…it is called skillz to pay the billz.
you worry too much about JHMs reputation for some reason…you claim because they are your friends. shit your ass is living close to ghetto detroit in toronto (which i am sure is much nicer than detroit). just had to drop detroit in there since i worked there before and know it is close to toronto.
shit i am sure your friends if they are good would get scooped up by another employer. what i was basically saying was the other thread here seemed to be about clutch issues around jhm clutches…was i not reading that correctly?
hey i heard only one of your nuts has dropped, so you are gentle on your clutch. maybe when you get some ballz you will be able to shit your car like you stole it…ie like elevens
I defend JHM because they make good shit. I bought a bunch of their stuff and liked it, then met them and they are good guys. I don’t understand all the Toronto/Detroit talk.
For a guy who knows, as near as makes no difference, fuck all about JHM or their parts or the cars they make them for, you seem pretty motivated to talk shit about their products on forums. Maybe we should talk about that?
i actually have not had any experience with jhm products but am interested in the lwfw/stg 3/4 clutch and intake spacers.
was interested in the tune/exhaust but they can not deliver either.
i have nothing against jhm and was just making a statement that the other thread regarding clutches are all jhm clutches. that is it. my preference is for them to be successful bc they do make stuff for my car.
i do enjoy busting your ball since only one has dropped. also, you dont know what i know about cars.
the scary thing is that you don’t know what you don’t know.
Swansea, what’s all this testicle business about?