Fear the words “inventory the car” prior to an impound…just be mindful, once it gets to this point, you’re in for the long haul on more than just possession of a jammer/detection.
I hope a cop never gets a malfunction on his laser while pointing it at me. I certainly wouldn’t want my car impounded and ripped to shreds for them to find absolutely nothing.
Now, thinking out loud to myself here, what if the cops did rip the car to shreds and found nothing. Then what? Do they take any responsibility for destroying property?
I have the same kit (Minus the Bell I went with V1), the nice thing about the Laser system is it also has “parking” mode.Follow along with me:
I got stopped twice, once in Indiana because the cop didn’t know why he couldn’t pull my speed but assumed I was going fast: I was going 25 over, told him 12 over and he gave me a warning. Never mentioned being jammed.
Second the Cop had to assume I jammed him. I slowed down, killed it, passed the cop, V1 going off the entire time, he pulls out and pulls me over. Asks how fast, I told him 15 over (pretty normal in Chicago to go 65-70 with traffic and not have it be an issue), he said he wasn’t sure how fast because his Laser Gun wasn’t working and asked me why he thought that may be.
I honestly got a little palm sweat going, and just answered…Uhhhh I don’t know officer, I thought you pulled me over for going 15 over and assumed you got me and thats why I was being honest with my speed.
He asked if I had any devices that would interfere with his equipment and I said I have a radar detector, would that do it? -knowing full well it was my jammers, but trying to act dumb.
He walked to the front of my car and motioned for me to get out. Pointed at the units and said what are those for, I said parking sensors for the front of the car. He asked if they came on the car, I said no I had them added after I hit curbs and my garage one too many times.
Went back in the car, flipped the knob to “Parking Mode”, turned the car off and back on …“Parking Mode Activated”…looked at me like he knew I was indirectly calling him retarded. Told me to hang tight, came back with a warning…
When the knob is in Laser Protection mode and you turn the car on it say “Defense Mode Activated” FYI, funny to hear.
That’s the thing, unless the officer thinks you have something BEYOND a jammer like five pounds of cocaine stashed away within the confines of your car, the idea to “rip apart” your car to find a jammer/detection system is uncalled for and would be something the state frowns upon.
As I said, traffic officers in VA are different…most of the motor guys I know KNOW when they’re being jammed so they’ll find ways to get to the truth. It’s one of those pick your battle moments.
Laser bender is the nomenclature.
You are not jamming anything.
States try and pass laws against radar/ laser devices, but they are FCC compliant and therefore have federal preemption against any state jurisdiction.
See: cell phone towers, radiation claims, state battles, FCC
I have no idea about the Federal legalities of it, but as for the state side… it is definitely considered illegal in Texas to have a laser jammer, bender, scrambler…whatever.
Not sure how you would go about fighting it if it is indeed covered by Federal law, but I can’t imagine it is an easy or cheap battle.
Also I have been told that LEO’s don’t NEED the speed gun to issue a citation. They just use that as confirmation. They can issue a speeding citation based on traffic flow and comparative or perceived speed.
Paraphrased from 46.2-1079:
§ 46.2-1079. Radar detectors; demerit points not to be awarded.
A. It shall be unlawful for any person to operate a motor vehicle on the highways of the Commonwealth when such vehicle is equipped with any device or mechanism, passive or active, to detect or purposefully interfere with or diminish the measurement capabilities of any radar, laser, or other device or mechanism employed by law-enforcement personnel to measure the speed of motor vehicles on the highways of the Commonwealth for law-enforcement purposes. It shall be unlawful to use any such device or mechanism on any such motor vehicle on the highways. It shall be unlawful to sell any such device or mechanism in the Commonwealth. However, provisions of this section shall not apply to any receiver of radio waves utilized for lawful purposes to receive any signal from a frequency lawfully licensed by any state or federal agency.
B. A person shall not be guilty of a violation of this section when the device or mechanism in question, at the time of the alleged offense, had no power source and was not readily accessible for use by the driver or any passenger in the vehicle.
C. This section shall not apply to motor vehicles owned by the Commonwealth or any political subdivision thereof and used by law-enforcement officers in their official duties, nor to the sale of any such device or mechanism to law-enforcement agencies for use in their official duties.
D. No demerit points shall be awarded by the Commissioner for violations of this section. Any demerit points awarded by the Commissioner prior to July 1, 1992, for any violation of this section shall be rescinded and the driving record of any person awarded demerit points for a violation of this section shall be amended to reflect such rescission.
In short, you can be in possession or a federally approved detection or “jammer” but cannot be used within the commonwealth of VA. The code is pretty black and white.
…that is a bit more lenient stance than TX has. Here you “may not use, attempt to use, install, operate, or attempt to operate a radar interference device” and if you do it is a Clas C Misdemeanor.
All you really need is a good detector. I have yet to receive any tickets since installing mine 4 years ago. The trick is not to speed when roads are completely vacant, a few targets in front or behind for the cops to hit so the radar goes off. Also never speed in known speed trap zones…just common sense shit
I suppose if you have the jammer / bender then you may get away speeding when there are no other targets on the road…
Don’t know about the states but this is true in Ontario. The cops don’t need a single bit of proof. They can hand you a speeding ticket even if you’re going under the speed limit. It ends up being their word against yours and the judge will always side with the cop. In Ontario, cops have way too much power IMHO.
+1
Love the RS7 in white. Fantastic car.
No entirely true. You have every right to contest it in court and request disclosure. Chances are not great but I have argued in court that the cop actually picked up someone in the opposite direction with their radar (based on the cops location, etc) - I won. I know this is not so relevant with laser, since it’s pretty hard to miss the target.
Still, I don’t think a cop would be willing to put his reputation with the court on the line, just to stick you with a ticket… a lot of people have vid cams these days and if you were able to prove in court that the cop lied, that cop would be facing contempt and internal discipline…
I’m hurt. This explains why I only saw bits and pieces of you at h2o a few years back at our condo on 68th and completely explains the lack of BanananaMan appearences.
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FatflyingfuckingTrollmato is still at it
Yeah, in this day and age, I guess it’s easier with video cameras and GPS showing your speed. Those tools weren’t available until recently.
Mistro… That GIF Hahahhahahahha!
Did you delete it?
I have threatened to prove that a cop is an alcoholic in open court. They dropped the case as fast as possible when I offered to bring up a bartender that the cop liked. Otherwise the cop was going to face the fines and consequences for lying in court. That is the only time that a cop’s reputation was dragged enough into question that the judge did not automatically believe what they were saying. To be honest, the amount of time that it took to dig up that information was not worth the reward other than just on principle.
haha yes I did… didn’t want to get an infraction or derail the topic any more since it had gotten kinda back on track.
Maybe I’ll post it again if he says anything else crazy
States can pass laws all they want, but it doesn’t mean they are legal.
See: marijuana, Washington state
Of course no one is going to escalate a case involving a laser jammer to federal court, but in theory you would have a good chance at winning.