Mike@CW goes 12.48 at 111 in a +1,500 DA... Really?

If anything, you want more friction with the drag surface to hook your tires up. And no, that does not make a bigger difference than DA lol Maybe it matters for the fuel economy on a toyota corolla.

Are you talking about an older mustang, or a S550? Cause the older mustangs had obviously different suspension setups. Here is a new one going fast…

http://www.svtperformance.com/2015/10/28/video-8-7-second-2015-mustang/

There was supposedly an old hack with the old Pontiac Sunbird 2L turbo: if you shut off and restarted the car while the MAP was under vacuum, you could trick the car into recalibrating extra boost.

I remember throwing resistors on my B18C motors IAT to get richer or leaner too…

This CW thing is pretty much as hack-ish as that…lol!

Naw bro, it has something they call rev sens http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/645409-B8-5-S4-stock-versus-APR-Stage-1-tune-versus-Chipwerke-piggy-back?p=11144085&viewfull=1#post11144085

This pic looks like something from south park haha

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/645409-B8-5-S4-stock-versus-APR-Stage-1-tune-versus-Chipwerke-piggy-back?p=11134468&viewfull=1#post11134468

http://www.chipwerke.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Setting-diagram-Recovered.png

AZT, thanks! Didn’t know he was running a pulley… Sorry gave up on the chipwerkes threads months ago… He should disclose that in his 1/4 post…

Drob, LOL @ The South Park analogy…

Say what you want about the CW - it is a crude device - what impresses me is how the B8 S4 adapts it with such elegance. Suddently telling a forced induction motor it is flowing 20% less air @ wide open throttle would get you in alot of trouble with other motors lol.

I’d say the car running full time closed loop really helps here.

has anyone made the spinal tap joke yet out the knobs being turned up to 11?

I don’t understand why he doesn’t just go stage2 with GAIC or APR? What is he gaining from taking on this additional risk versus just going a proven low-risk route if he really does want to go faster? I guess its just for fun and if the engine blows, no worries, just get another?

Or he’s getting a cut of every device sold so the better it shows the better his pocket book is? That would be my guess…

It does seem VERY strange. Although he did vehemently deny any involvement in the business when he came here and then ran away. The first time lol.

It’s funny but basically the only guys to get the chipwerke are corner cutters trying to save a buck over the real deal and hoping to get away with it.

Turns out Mike is the same with his maintenance…took his car to a quick oil change shop and it looks like whole trying to save 20 bucks it will cost him about a thousand.

Good to see him learn a lesson. Maybe he will abandon chipwerke and the inevitable xspower downpipes /exhaust after this.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/681930-Just-another-reason-not-to-take-your-S4-to-an-instant-oil-change-shop

[QUOTE=bhvrdr]I already blame myself enough and am aware what I did was stupid by not taking my car to a more trusted shop or doing the work myself but i’ll share this post anyways and be ready for the flaming :frowning:

I was looking through Groupon and saw a $49 deal to get a full synthetic oil change at the Valvoline Instant Oil Change place. So I figured, why not do an added 5K interval change at such a cheap price. I cant buy the parts that cheap so whats to lose right? …and there is where my mistake lies and what turned into a 4 hour ordeal that involved police.

I pulled up to the oil change place and stayed in the car. A couple minutes into the change I feel a jarring / ripping sensation through the floor of the car. I’m thinking, “Hmmm, I hope they know to slide the aero belly pan to the rear to let it drop down instead of pulling on it.” …I make a mental note.

So now they are at the stage where the person up top starts to pour in the motor oil. He starts to poor it in and stops pretty quickly yelling to the guy below to make sure he drained it all out as it is overflowing. … Mental note number two. Hmm.

So a few minutes go buy and I call the manager over and mention to him that I would appreciate it if he make sure all the 1/4 turn fasteners are put correctly back into place because they are very expensive to replace. He smiles and assures me he will make sure that happens.

So now the oil is supposedly back in the car and we are about to close our transaction. I’m standing at the front of the car now and i’m staring at a 1/4 turn fastener sitting on the ground under the front of my car. I’m waiting…waiting…waiting for someone to pick it up to put it in or to tell me “You’re all set.” …and sure enough I hear…“You’re all set you are good to go.” So I bend over and pick up the 1/4 turn fastener and ask to talk to the manager.

The manager comes over and I point out to him that his person just left $20 worth of fastener of mine on the floor and I’d like to go into his pit to see what else is missing. He takes me down into the pit where I see this…

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/bhvrdr/IMG_20151213_135028%201_zpsuzfwafhb.jpg

I’m looking up at the car at first and I see the DSG drain plug right there and there is DSG fluid all over it and dripping. I’m thinking “Why can I see the DSG drain plug? Theres supposed to be an aero pan covering this?” and i’m also thinking…“Oh crap, they drained the DSG fluid.”

As I keep looking up my brain starts to register what it is seeing. Holy crap, this guy cut my car into pieces. My aero pan has a huge hole cut into it. I’m standing in the oil pit now with the tech and the manager and I ask the tech if he did this to my car and if he drained my DSG fluid. He says absolutely not. Well since I am under my car every week and I know no one else was under my car I’m finding that very hard to believe. So I took it upon myself to walk around their oil pit until I found two of these…

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/bhvrdr/IMG_20151213_134958%201_zps8oyorxr4.jpg

Yeah, sitting in their trash can are two pieces of my aero pan he cut out. At this point i’m thinking that I need witnesses, and alot of them. I call my wife and I called the police so I could at least get a report.

It looks like this is what happens…

  1. Employee cuts hole in transmission aero pan and drains DSG fluid.
  2. Tech tries to put in motor oil and it overflows all over the engine because no engine oil was ever removed.
  3. Tech and manager were going to let me drive on my way with no DSG fluid and massively overfilled engine oil in which case id likely be out an engine and transmission.

I had the car flat bedded to Audi and will await the damage on MON. I’m worried they tried to cover up their mistake of draining the DSG fluid and put some no name brand automatic transmission fluid in the DSG in which case I dont even want to know how I can get Audi to test the fluid in there to see if it is non OEM.

I have learned my lesson. This sunday sucks.

Mike
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Holy shit. That’s pretty much why I go to the dealership, at least the dealership they know something about cars, and they get drug tested. However, I’m not surprised at the person who went to a 50$ oil change, the same cheap guy who thinks the chipwerke is a good purchase for the price… ha.

Thats actually shocking that someplace would do that. I cant believe that. It does seem fitting as he went cheap on the tune and cheap on the oil change and it seem to have ended bad each time

Wow! That is ugly… Feel bad for him but come on man why are you taking your car there in the first place… I get being busy but still a jiffy lube place, sigh… I guess he’ll have to sell some more “tuning boxes”… Speaking of which I’m pretty much 100% sure he’s compensated by CW, as he made yet another new thread to document his progress…

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/682694-B8-S4-Stock-versus-Chipwerke-Stage-1-versus-Chipwerke-Stage-2-testing

Yeah he obviously is - I mean look at these plugs in his post:

-There may be jerkiness in DSG shifting.
-You may have to clear an underboost code once a year or so.
-Probably can only take advantage of up to 96 octane or so.
-People will make fun of you for having a piggy back.

I think you guys are paranoid.

Really? That’s a fraction of his post and read the areas I’ve bolded… Read his other threads(see below)

You can drink his kool aid as well, I could care less, but if you really think he isn’t pushing that device and being compensated you’re an idiot, sorry… He’s made numerous threads and countless endorsements on threads… When one gets locked or dies down he creates a new one to keep the interest. He is also good at playing the other side of well with the whole I’ll eventually get tuned, yeah sure you can’t do that if you want to keep pushing this product. The funny thing is vendorzine puts up with it, so in the end good for him.

I’m not paranoid about anything, just pointing shit out in the end it impacts me 0%… Go CW! Wonder what they’ll develop next for our cars?

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/644321-Why-are-we-paying-1200-or-so-for-tunes-for-the-S4

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/645409-B8-5-S4-stock-versus-APR-Stage-1-tune-versus-Chipwerke-piggy-back

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/681249-Going-to-track-tomorrow-or-FRI-for-Chipwerke-with-pulley-old-thread-locked

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/682694-B8-S4-Stock-versus-Chipwerke-Stage-1-versus-Chipwerke-Stage-2-testing

Well lets just pretend for the moment that some other honest, helpful person decided to test this new device that goes heavily against the mainstream. I’d expect to see detailed before/after track data, dynos, and logs. Check. I’d expect to hear both the goods AND the bads of the device. Check.

And if it brought out controversy, defensiveness, and unhappy vendors on AZ that got the thread locked down, I’d expect someone motivated by truth to start another thread with yet more hard data. Not an advertiser but someone trying to fight the advertising machine. I suppose when you are going against the grain it may look to some like you are trying too hard.

The irony is I see Mike’s principles aligning more with what you guys stand for and what you don’t like about AZ, and yet you see him as another advertiser, which is too bad.

the things you listed…the ‘negatives’

are they really negatives, or are they someone casting sarcasm at what others are calling negatives. Let’s look at them

  1. the dsg crack - this isn’t much of a negaative since dsg is already jerky, but it’s a negative that he posts, so I’ll give you that, but as primetime mentioned, he didn’t say it would happen…he said it might happen.

  2. the code that you may (not always) have to clear once a year. Nowhere on earth is that a negative. We clear codees quarterly already

  3. probably can only take advantage of 96 octane or so. Umm…99% of guys never TOUCH a race gas tune on their car, so this is a negative to virtually nobody

  4. people will make fun of you - again, this is sarcasm, pointing out that one of the only negatives (in his sales pitch) is not really a big deal, and is a big joke

So really , none of these were negatives other than the potential for a DSG jerkiness on some cars. Offset that with 30 pages of glowing ass kissing for this third rate, 10th best tuning option, and I think you can see that only the morons like yourself are being fooled by this guy.

Still crazy to me the amount of time and energy AZT spends defending this guy.

Hey man I won’t argue he’s done a pretty nice job of testing in comparison to others users and some company’s for that matter. I’ll even admit the product may produce some gains by tricking the ecu, even though something like that would never be for me it probably “works” to some extent.

Where we disagree is Mike being honest about this product and his relationship with CW. He’s getting paid IMO, no worries though I don’t post on vendorzine…

The whole advertiser/vendor thing is really weird these days… CW and Mike make all those threads and posts and get no flack really, which is weird given how the “management” has treated many including myself… I never asked APR but I’d bet they, GIAC, EPL, etc. complained but the threads persisted… Strange really… My guess is Toni is getting paid by these clowns as well… Again, means 0% to me just talking about it on our small forum over here…

As for Mike, I’ve interacted with him via email and the sites… No hard feelings from me just stating the facts…