Milltek Exhaust - Resonated vs. Non

Hello AudiRevolution,

I have an Audi S6 (just purchased!) with resonated Milltek Exhaust. I was just curious if it is possible to purchase only the non-resonated section of this exhaust if I was interested in swapping it in to see if I prefer the tone/volume level. Anyone have experience with this?

I was thinking it would be easy enough to swap the resonators back in if it was too loud for daily use?

I am on the fence as the exhaust sounds great, maybe a bit deeper than I prefer but I don’t know if the non-resonated would be more high pitched (F1 like) – only concern is major drone as the car is a daily use vehicle!

I welcome any feedback!
Jason

I think you can order that section from Milltek direct. But then again, I just ordered a JHM system, soooo I don’t know from personal experience.

I don’t know how easy it is to switch back and forth, but the non-resonated one does sound great and the exhaust drone is not bothersome at all, to me at least. One of these days I really need to dump my miltek and get a proper 2.75" JHM system

Yes you can swap in the non-resonated sections. I bought mine and it was non-resonated, slight drone under certain situations but nothing that bothered me. Put in the resonators and i was like where’s my V10 gone! Way too quiet. Its probably cheaper to get some non-resonated sections made up somewhere locally rather than getting them direct from Miltek. Its only two sections of 2.36" piping.

try being completely stock! So quiet it’s painful. Induction noises are wonderful though.

I’ll probably just cut the midsection after the primary cats and straightpipe with an X to the mufflers for the short term.

get yourself a JHM catback so! No excuse! It would probably cost me half the price of the system again in shipping and import duties! Just get it done!

I’d love to, but my pile of cash is only so tall…just got it and need to get 'er fully sorted before I start the bolt ons. :slight_smile:

New shoes and suspension bits are first on the list - provided I can find this oil leak.

That JHM exhaust is sexy you know its hard to wait LOL. good list…

Jason as already mentioned you can get the non res section but that is a bit pricey. It might make sense to see what miltek wants and consider your options. The milltek exhaust is basically the same size as stock so your not getting much performance out of it and part of that is going to be the sound. Id check out the JHM offering of the 2.75 and see if you like how that sounds. It might make more sense to get a new exhaust compaired to what milltek might want for just the one section.

the non-resonated SuperSprint is at $1500 w free shipping at ECS…the want is so bad! I JHM or someone would let me in on a ballpark $ for the catback :S

Yeah, might as well just pay the difference for the JHM system and tune over time… The exhaust would probably take at least a month anyway I’m guessing. Don’t quote me on the time frame since I really have no idea lol. But just saying, it’s probably worth the difference considering how they did actual tuning whereas SuperSprint probably just tuned for sound quality.

I don’t get you guys just buying shit without doing your homework.

What does the car actually need to perform? i.e. what diameter? What design?

From there, what are the options who have actually designed the exhaust properly?

From there, which ones sound best?

From there, which one makes the most financial sense?

Supersprint is retarded. They’re famous for making poorly designed, often overpriced exhausts without any thought to what the car actually needs. Basically they use SLIGHTLY louder mufflers than stock.

For $500 just go and buy a couple of good perforated core straight through mufflers and have a shop cut off the stockers and weld the new ones on.

Or do your homework and buy something designed by someone who owns the fucking car and has done more performance testing in 18 months than the entire audi tuning industry did in 10 years on this car. Count Vohn is the only smart guy in the tuning world who gives a shit about your car.

Hooooo boy;

I don’t get you guys that’ve been here a while being elitist pricks

[quote]What does the car actually need to perform? i.e. what diameter? What design?
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Performance increase; ANY mandrel bent exhaust on a C6S6 will be superior to the crush bends, clearance pinches and other packaging/fitment shortcomings with the factory exhaust. Period. Full stop. Even if it’s a slight or negligible increase. Since there’s TWO readily available systems that are actually stocked by vendors that’re happy to take my cash and ship it immediately, it limits options.

[quote]From there, what are the options who have actually designed the exhaust properly?
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I used to actually work in exhaust R&D at Edelbrock once upon a time. The above question is irrelevant. You’re talking about a platform that has TWO off the shelf options. So is the brown turd better with or without peanuts because unless you dig and ask repeatedly, those are your options.

[quote]From there, which ones sound best?

From there, which one makes the most financial sense?
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ROFL - you break this down like there’s hundreds of options…

[quote]Supersprint is retarded. They’re famous for making poorly designed, often overpriced exhausts without any thought to what the car actually needs. Basically they use SLIGHTLY louder mufflers than stock.
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I disagree with this completely as it hasn’t been my experience with them at all. 4 Porsche systems and 2 BMW systems and I’d say they’re above average for what you pay, especially in crowded segment markets. You’re just wrong on this. I can’t see the S6 system being any lower quality than I’ve received in the past. The welds were good, fitment was as good as you can expect from a multi piece system shipped from Italy.
[quoe]For $500 just go and buy a couple of good perforated core straight through mufflers and have a shop cut off the stockers and weld the new ones on.
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For about $190 I could’ve cut the exhaust myself and welded a prefab magnaflow X and a couple of cans in there. What’s your point? That wasn’t the original question.

[quote]Or do your homework and buy something designed by someone who owns the fucking car and has done more performance testing in 18 months than the entire audi tuning industry did in 10 years on this car. Count Vohn is the only smart guy in the tuning world who gives a shit about your car.
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Could you swing any harder from his dick? Christ man, take a step back and look how posts like this are perceived by those of us just finding out about the secret squirrel club.

Look, take this for what it’s worth, but you are one of the most valuable contributors to this particular community. When people ask for information and opinions and you fire back with insults, it’s of no value to anyone. I dunno how you can be so knowledgeable and ignorant in the same breath… Surely you’re not meaning to be a douche, but this is the second time a post has gotten nasty for really no good reason. I get it, you know more than I ever will. You are the master, the best and you know all the cool kids that can make the good stuff.

Can we be friends now?

FYI - I ordered the JHM catback. And the tune. And the cable. And the phenolic spacer. I firmly believe in supporting a vendor that’s active in a platform. They also seem to be pretty good guys. If their products are good, they don’t need a legion of cheerleaders. It’s also pretty shitty to result to ad hominem either towards people or products to prop up an opinion…

didn’t realise you were aiming to be negligibly better than stock. That’s moronic…but that’s your prerogative.

[quote]Since there’s TWO readily available systems that are actually stocked by vendors that’re happy to take my cash and ship it immediately, it limits options.
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Yes, we all know immediate availability is the key determinant of most appropriate modifications for your luxury car. Everyone knows that. ::slight_smile:

Here’s a question: when they’re stacked up and not being sold, and are being sold off cheap, doesn’t that tell you something?

[quote]I used to actually work in exhaust R&D at Edelbrock once upon a time. The above question is irrelevant. You’re talking about a platform that has TWO off the shelf options. So is the brown turd better with or without peanuts because unless you dig and ask repeatedly, those are your options.
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lol yet you’re foolishly chasing terrible performance parts for your car and are doing so impatiently? I guess you worked in the mail room over there. Because you’re clueless at best.

[quote]ROFL - you break this down like there’s hundreds of options…
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There are a few options. The S6 isn’t new. There are about half a dozen catback systems out there, and I’m sure there’s a handful of down pipe options. Sounds like you’re not that good at searching maybe?

[quote]I disagree with this completely as it hasn’t been my experience with them at all. 4 Porsche systems and 2 BMW systems and I’d say they’re above average for what you pay, especially in crowded segment markets. You’re just wrong on this. I can’t see the S6 system being any lower quality than I’ve received in the past. The welds were good, fitment was as good as you can expect from a multi piece system shipped from Italy.
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yes, we all know the italians are famous for engineering, and quality lololol

notice we’re talking about a performance exhaust and all you’re talking about is ‘welds’? It’s a fucking performance exhaust…not a piece of art. It’s going under your car and will look like shit in 2 weeks.

Supersprint have produced various terrible performing, terribly designed Audi performance exhausts and anyone with an eye for what various platforms require to actually perform saw right away they didn’t care about performance, only about relieving a few fools of their bank balances. Those who bought and tested them found out the hard way. No better than stock.

you sound like you got lost on your way to quattroworld.

[quote]Could you swing any harder from his dick? Christ man, take a step back and look how posts like this are perceived by those of us just finding out about the secret squirrel club.
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ever think that he’s just good at this, and has put in the efforts and time to build something that works? When someone gives someone else a compliment for great work, why don’t you look into it? You claim you’ve bought some of his stuff…are you thus a dickswinger? I stated some simple facts…only one guy has done ANYTHING with this platform to actually make it faster. Seriously. Not supershit, your italian design geniuses who have historically been a fucking LAUGHING STOCK in the Audi world for anyone who actually tests performance parts. Ask someone about their headers for the RS4 lololol.

Anyway, you’re a typical Audi ‘performance’ guy. You care about polishing your parts more than using them. You care about optics more than actual performance. You focus on following and listening to the masses as opposed to those who actually test parts and focus on performance. You’re a facade of a performance enthusiast. Behind it though we all know facades are hollow and empty.

Best of luck in your build.

yep. Big douche.

My opinion of res vs non res is below

Non-resonated: your neighbors will most likely hate you in the early hours of the morning or late at night as you start it up from cold. Bit of a drone at certain rpm levels in traffic and on the highway, nothing that bothers me too much. v10 sounds great under all situations brings that extra smile factor compared to the resonated.

Resonated: quite cabin, you dont like to hear the v10 only when you ocassionally open the window to hear it. Wife/girlfriend/child/neighbor friendly Sounds 90% as good from outside the car when loud pedal is applied

If your going for the Milltek i would start off with the non-resonated setup and that would satisfy most v10 owners, but as mentioned it wont add much performance over stock setup.

Scored a two day old demo set from local Milltek dealer for $350 shipped. Thanks for all the (on-topic) replies everyone! I’m going to try them out, can always add one or both resonated sections back in…

Can’t beat that price lol

Interesting let us know how it turns out.

Had the non-resonated sections installed today and I’m satisfied with the change in volume and tone. It’s less pronounced than I expected, not too loud at all and under throttle it’s definitely a bit more but nothing obnoxious at all. I was thinking I may want to put only one side in but now I’m happy I went with both. It’s a bit more raw sounding but I like it! For the more refined sound you may prefer the resonated sections.
Now mine are going up for sale…!