New RS3 Sportback Review

[sakimano]

I’ve only tried it twice and had no instruction. Like autocross, it’s not for me. Too much waiting. Sit in the car for an hour, drive for 13 seconds. How many years of practice do you all estimate it takes to get good at it? Certainly no one makes a world record on their second try, unless they’re driving a Tesla.

It is the 987 Cayman S. Not only is it faster than the TT-RS around a true 2+ minute road course, it’s a lot more reliable. I don’t recall all of the issues but I think the brakes were inadequate. It spent a lot of time on jacks on the paddock.

I went to the drag strip 3 times in my B7S4, I think I made a total of 15 passes. I have the third fastest NA time.
I basically followed some of the information/tips a few of the other guys provided online and all I had to do was shift gears quickly.

The drag strip is really just like taking off from a stop light, except faster…haha

Yup, you became the fastest all motor B7 S4 on your 3rd trip to the strip…a record I previously held, which I achieved on my 3rd visit. Probably my 20th pass.

The funny thing is my first passes at the strip (available for review on my youtube) look a lot like the driving in my 3rd visit. My modlist changed, producing the delta…however the driving was always pretty similar. The first 2 visits, I had tune/piggies/catback/lw crank.
My best time from my first visit was 13.27. My best time from my second visit was 13.21. I made 6 or 7 passes each time.
I added catless downpipes and JHM launch assist, and went 12.99.

I think now I’m a quicker shifter but launching the car back then vs. now is no different. Probably saves me a tenth and gets me a MPH.

The delta between westwest’s times and other similarly modded cars is about 10 tenths and 8 mph. His driving is abhorrent. He’s truly ham fisted.

[sakimano]

lol it just went from base to a Cayman S

Here’s the comparison of lap times for the TTRS vs. Cayman S. As you can see there’s nothing in it between them. Sounds like westwest and his friend need a driver mod or two.

Track Cayman S TT RS Coupe
Virginia International Raceway Grand East Course (pre 01/2014) 3:05.80 3:04.80

OK, now we’re getting somewhere. So you do know that 1 second on 3 minutes is within the margin of error for choice of showroom stock tire. So if the Cayman came with some shitty Dunlop from 2005, and the TT-RS came with some marginally better Continental tire tech from 2013 that would be more than a second. Don’t forget the density altitude since these cars were tested on different days - we know that makes a world of difference.

The TT like most Audi’s relies on horsepower to complete the course in a good time. So you might tune your TT-RS and hope it stays cool enough to get you through 20 minutes of driving. The Cayman relies slightly more on carrying momentum. If you’re a big boy and you can handle the trouble that an R compound tire can get you in, the Cayman can be silly fast if you never have to slow it down. Looks like he was running Toyo R888. I know he has a few sets of wheels and tires for the TT-RS also. It ate through a set of Trofeo’s in like a weekend, which was an expensive mistake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yrmw7c72YI

Another thing to consider is that unless your last name is Andretti, the best pro driver time may not match your results. I guarantee anyone on this forum would put down a better lap time in a Gallardo than in a Ferrari Enzo. It’s because the Gallardo is a lot easier to drive, even though the Enzo has an insanely quicker lap time for a pro driver. The problem is that car will bite your hand off.

Most drivers will find a Cayman more intuitive around a track, though it may be possible to coax an even lap time out of a TT-RS with some rough driving. In other words, the Cayman is faster for most of us mortals.

funny, here we have numerous lap times from European and American periodicals with high quality drivers comparing the cars, and westwest wants to discount them.

he would instead prefer to compare performance of ham fisted hacks who can’t change gear (namely himself)

[primetime]

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Yet when it comes to drag race times for the S4 he wants to state magazine times… It’s whatever fits his ramblings for the day… Can’t even call it an argument because he is all over the place and never admits a point being made… True definition of a troll…

[westwest888]

So I post a real world experience. Then you guys quickly google something to fit your context and call me an idiot for not forgetting what I saw, and instead siding with the links. How come nobody trades in their Cayman for TT-RS if it’s faster, in your estimation?

The VIR number is the most valid. Put both cars on Pilot Super Sport and the Cayman beats the TT-RS every time. Put them on R888 and that gap grows substantially.

[Jupiteraudi]

I’m not sure about this 2.5L motor. The TT-RS just isn’t that fast around a road course, or struggles to keep up more than it should. An 8 year old Cayman base can run circles around it.

Speculation at its best. I think it will be a fantastic car both on the street and occasional track use. West - you should consider one for your track needs, I think you would be surprised despite your questionable comments.