Oh no! My RS4 has carbon!

It’s funny watching the classic psychology states play out with RS4 carbon…

Denial — As the reality of carbon is hard to face, one of the first reactions is Denial. The RS4 owner is trying to shut out the reality or magnitude of the situation, and begins to develop a false, preferable reality. This state was most heavily evidenced by the original owners, who could not fathom a sub-optimal design was produced by Audi. Recent owners will perform frantic forum searches on “carbon” hoping that it doesn’t apply to their RS4.

Anger — The most common stage. Many RS4 owners cannot move beyond this stage, and some get rid of their RS4s instead of trying to understand carbon. The person in question can be angry with himself (for purchasing a “defective engine”), or with others (for making a “defective engine”), or at a higher power (“why me?!”), and especially those who are close to them (fellow forum members).

Bargaining — The third stage involves the hope that the individual can somehow undo or solve the cause of carbon. Seeking to understand the root cause, and provide long term solutions is the sign of a great car owner. Many solutions have been sought, and new RS4 owners commonly move through researching (and sometimes repeating) investigations. The results of this research lead to the next stage of acceptance…

Depression — “My engine doesn’t make 420hp, why bother with anything?”; “What’s the point with owning a RS4?”; “I have carbon, why go on?” During the fourth stage, the grieving RS4 owner begins to understand the certainty of carbon. Much like the existential concept of The Void, the idea of living with carbon becomes pointless. The RS4 loses its luster. Because of this, the RS4 owner may become silent, refuse to post online and spend much of the time crying and sullen. This process allows the RS4 owner to disconnect from car culture, possibly in an attempt to avoid further trauma. Oftentimes, this is the ideal path to take, to find closure and make their ways to the fifth step, Acceptance.

Acceptance — “My RS4 is going to be okay.”; “I can’t fight carbon, I may as well prepare for it.”
In this last stage, RS4 owners come to terms with the inevitable carbon build-up. The owner understands that carbon only affects peak horsepower (high rpm), and is only noticeable to the seat of the pants when the build-up is extreme. The accepting owner will track mileage between carbon cleanings, and understands that a well maintained car requires a carbon clean every 15,000 to 30,000 miles (depending on their state of OCD). This owner understands that while the RS4 is not perfect, it is damn close to the mark. Carbon build-up can be managed, and is really a very small blemish on an iconic vehicle.

(credit to Wikipedia entry for Kubler-Ross model for 5 stages of grief)

Hahahah so true! I’ve whitnessed the entire thing over the years lol

Haha, awesome post. Change “carbon” to “timing ‘chain’ failure” or “chain rattle” and you pretty much have about 75% of the B6/7 S forum.

I think I’m beyond acceptance.

Only problem is carbon isn’t much of a performance impact, so there’s a pile of other psychological models to examine.

I think Stockholm syndrome is one. The rs4 world is so fucking wrapped up in carbon buildup (sticky at the top of every rs4 forum on earth is generally a carbon buildup support group /bitch session) that even when people present evidence that performance is barely impacted by CB, the RS4 community instead chooses to remain hostage to the belief that carbon has robbed 40-50 of their horsepowers.

I wrote a thread about this. You new guys should read it…give some feedback even if you think I’m nuts.

http://audirevolution.net/forum/index.php?topic=1077.0

^ I had not read your post, and enjoyed it.

My post was meant to make light of the obsession. Carbon does not deserve the attention it receives. Well-adjusted RS4 owners pass into the “acceptance” stage rather quickly, and understand that it doesn’t have much of an impact, and is easy to deal with as a periodic maintenance issue (for a few extra high rpm hp, and prevention of the low probability carbon engine scoring).

Yeah I’m with you. It is really funny.

Pretty funny read.

I think the biggest issues with carbon are with the forums people have tried to talk about it on. In the past you can’t have a discussion about carbon because most owners were in different stages of understanding.

You had the crazy people that thought carbon had no impact and you should just egnore it.
Then had the guys who could swear they picked up 100 hp just in a carbon clean.
Then there were the guys that bought BS performance parts and wanted to blame the under performing car on carbon
Then there were the shops that for greedy and offered carbon clean and dyno sheets
Then there are the guys that claim they ran this or that and most of it is lies
The list goes on

what really needs to happen is a honest conversation.

and the Carbonator needs to be released for piece of mind.