One more example of the Tial fail.

Lets not call names here boys. and please check out my post in the general blog…

I want to say this also. Hunter was so much smarter to keep his build simple. I spent way too muh money! Was it 40k? No, it wasn’t. It was maybe 15k more than what hunter has into his. With that said, with both setups turned up I was significantly faster. But, it still, in my opinion isn’t always worth that extra little bit. Hunters move makes more sense fiscally, no questions asked.
Still doesn’t mean tials suck and will never perform well. They have, ergo, Chris is incorrect/wrong/misinformed/false in his statements.
The defense rests.

Tweetss4estate Are you on drugs?

Did you actually compare your car to hunters? Your referring to when you guys raced and hunter was on the tune made to be lame so he didn’t do any harm to his car? The same tune that you and kurt talked about making sure was made for hunters car so he didn’t do any damage no matter what he did with the car?? The same tune I was there logging when kurt made sure it was lame boosted late and only had low timing and ran fat to keep the car safe… WOW your a real hero ::slight_smile:

This is getting sad for you. Then you are talking about the JHM RS4 car?? The one that closes the throttle to keep the motor safe?

Hey guy. Your car hasn’t done anything. post your time slip from the track like Chris is saying.

In case you didn’t know it both cars that you never beat still run. Maybe we all have a different Idea of what a strong well running car is.

We all wont be able to use a straw for a while cause you have been grasping for straws the entire post.

Seriously these posts make you look pathetic. I don’t mean this as an insult I mean it in a way that you might wake up.

Dude I hate to tell you how pathetic you look. Post up your times from teh track youi keep talking about.

Fact is you raced your bothers car on a 91 octane tune and it was never the same boost. I have heard the story your bother told 4 different pepople and its been the smae from all 4 your story now is different.

Still his car is running and your Rs6 car was faster then your tial car. I have seen your 3rd gear pull data.

Ill be waitng for that non exsistant 1/4 mile track time you keep clinging onto.

I did speak with Kurt. Hunter and I were running almost identical timing. Boost onset is irrelevant when one waits for the other car to spool. No matter how you pitch this, this has nothing to do with hunters car being crap or insulting Kurt. This has to do with tials not being a joke. I guess it’s a lost cause. Look, I am and have been informed by Kurt on where is tune was, we’ve had tons of talks. He’s probably upset I’m fixing my silver car to keep it. Lost cause I guess here. Always an excuse. I beat hunters car dude, ask him, ask him if it was fair or close, ask him if he would beat me now? I’m surprised the V-box time is so easily written off. What ever, out of respect Justin for you and Kurt , I will withdraw and call an I lose. I hope to see you both in Kalamazoo when the show comes around. It was really awesome all of the work you did on hunters car btw.

Not a sob play, I understand how and what you mean. I have a great respect for Kurt. And I am seeing him wanting me to not go where I’ve gone. I apologize Kurt.

I never posted a 3rd gear log chris. And it was the same boost. I am not a liar.

Im saying your rs6 car was super fast… faster then your tial car.

Your using your Pbox time like you actually went to the track and you didn’t.

and I know justin and I know he saw how LAME hunters tune was and so did and do you. I know your so full of shit its pain full. If you and hunter werre runnig the samae timing whitch is bull shit why is his head gaskets blown.

FACT and ILL CALL YOU OUT AND ILL CALL KURT TO COME POST HERE AND FUCKING OWN YOU… FACT your car and hunters car were not runing the same timing. hunters tune is a 91 octane tune.

yes tweetss4estate I ment no disrespect by my post.

Still what your saying about the tunes and the race is wrong. hunter told a much different story. Not only that your claim about you running the same timing is also way false. I know you guys didn’t log the cars and check it cause kurt needed to borrow one of my lap tops cause you guys didn’t have one that worked… Come on man. What has gotten in to you.

I told Kurt that. He never plugged into my car, so there is no point in asking him to comment. I am not a liar, my RS6 car was significantly slower.
I am withdrawing out of respect for Kurt, makes me look bad, I know, but E Cred and proving a point means less to me than disrespecting Kurt.
You win Chris, I’m wrong, not a lair, but wrong. I don’t have an actual time slip so I will shut up until I do.

No no, I’m saying from what Kurt told me about the timing and looking at my timing it was almost identical.
Hunter’s going to post in the morning. I’m out of this. Let me go boys, I admit defeat.

Your bother had single digit timing. Max timing at the time was 13deg@6000+. Im sure you were much higher then that. Don’t pull out for the sake of kurt it would be better if he wasn’t involved. Pull out of the conversation becuase your using your Pbox times to compaire your car to two cars that have actually ran at the track and then your quoting a race when YOU KNEW your brothers car was detuned and even still he told everyone that you guys were not that far apart.

YOU also knew that his tune was made to hold off boost till after 4200. I was there with kurt working on getting the boost to come in slow.

I don’t know man this is getting kinda sad. I don’t want to sit here and pick apart what your saying

What if I have an AllRoad with RS6R turbo’s and it goes faster than 12.40 @ 116, then what?

According to Jason, when the meth is turned off was around 14 deg at peak. Because its so lean the ecu pulls 10 more deg of timing than with the meth on. Hunter said he would clear it up in the morning. It’s not sad. You guys are correct I don’t have a time slip. Though the v-box is proven, I have no video. It was foolish to quote without all doubt erased. I, however, don’t want to disrespect Kurt, I even told him about this to let him know I apologize.

Time slip or it didnt happen!

Exactly. I can’t believe someone would put results and down others based off a Vbox

There is why part of your credibility here is lost. Anything jason says is just about as factual as flying pigs.

Seriously, ur going to have your bother come on here and clear this up… No one cares. You have bags of excuses a Vbox and all kinds of claims. Quit talking about how great you think your car is and go show it. Do you really think any of us care about ur race with your bother… that shows nothing. Tune no tune 5 car lengths 1 car length.

I seriously don’t believe anything your saying anymore. You seem to have WAY to much vested and seem to be needing to have such mundane unquantifiable points drawn home. This has become a circus. You and ur posts are the reason why I canceled my TIAL purchase. Every Tial owner has a long story and a huge list of excuses.

Shakes head. Seems the B5 hasn’t made any real strides when it comes to blind commitment to a dead cause.

Man your not disrespecting kurt your disrespecting yourself. Your car isn’t running. The tune in the car was clearly pushing the car enough to blow headgaskets. so I doubt anyone is going to by the story your telling and in the end. Blake is right. No one cares if you beat your brother. This is turning into a side show act.

If its PES or TIAL the owners seem to goto great lengths to look like they made a great investment. When all along everyone is on the sidelines laughing. Tweetss4estate your being laughed at. Great get your car back and prove you didn’t waste your money. That still wont fix all this mess you made on the way there. and your going to be the only one with a fast Tial car.

. It was a bad set of bolts, not the tune. There was no sign of detonation. Have your way gentlemen. I’m not going to fight you anymore.

This was my car and it was a best et of 11.74@124.8 with a 1.88 60ft and best mph of 11.9x at 125.12 with a 1.9x 60ft

was this straight pump with no meth…?

Thank you Justin