Hi guys
I would like to ear your opinion on this car, I test drove one the other day and its a fast sedan , really enjoy it, very sporty for the size and the sound and 8000+ rpm are :o , with bolt ones they can do 11 and over 120+ trap speed , well let ear what you think.
Regards.
To quote a guy on svtperformance…
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Now that is the true giveaway. If the original manufacturer won’t give CPO warranty, you know it’ll be expensive to maintain.
Love the car. Don’t like the back end the way the Lights wrap around the side.
The bright blue color they have or the silvery blue is awesome.
I would get an aftermarket warranty if I was buying one. I looked vey hard at these last year when I bought my rs4.
One funny thing is they literally idle like a tractor. So don’t worry if it sounds horrible on a cold start.
i replaced my stock 6spd manual b8s4 with a stock 6spd manual e60 m5 and i am really enjoying it. just like Sakimano mentioned i wrapped it with an aftermarket warranty. the two cars are so different it honestly isn’t fair to do a direct comparison, so i won’t. i don’t care about maintenance or 93oct fuel costs (~12mpg combined), but i could see how people view those as negatives. the v10 sound and power is intoxicating and in its stock form the car is very quick which was important to me. driving around town in 400hp mode and shifting ~4000rpm you almost can’t hear the car… then you realize you’re not even half way to redline. press the m button and now your at 500hp (gimmicky, but definitely fun). the obvious void left by moving on from the s4 is the lack of quattro- not going to lie it sucks when the weather is inclement because the m5 stays in the garage.
fyi- here is my public service announcement on the 6spd/SMG if you get that far. the early 6spd e60 m5 ran horrible times (and was documented in every magazine) due to traction control software neutering it. unfortunately the magazines never really followed up testing of a 6spd with the software “update” allowing for the total disabling of the traction control. there are constantly dumb SMG vs 6spd battles referencing outdated information that skew people’s opinions. combine that with the majority of people owning SMG (from 2005-2010 there were only 1,296 6spd manual for the US Market). bottom line: either tranny is fine as far as performance numbers are concerned just pick the one that you like the best.
good luck with your decision!
Any other stock quarter mile times from the e60 smg you have seen? I don’t see much of the cars really.
Also how did you like the b8? You had it for how long?
I’ve recently thought about an E60 M5 as well since there have been several pop up locally for not much $$. I’ve since talked myself out of it since financially it’s not the right time.
I get the feeling that generally they are pretty reliable an preventative maint/fluid changes go a long way, but when things do go wrong it can be very expensive. You are fixing a $90-$100k low production car…It seems oil changes you can get down to about $100 if you DIY, and most other things can be done relatively cheap DIY, it’s only when you have to take it to a dealer do you typically get raped by labor and dealer part prices.
The stock quickest I can find is 12.3 in the 1/4
*ninja edit 1/4 time
12.3 sounds about right. 113-115 range?
Can’t forget its a 190" long 4200 lb car or something.
for the SMG or 6spd in stock form you will see about 12.3-12.5/115-116
i had my b8 for 4 years and i really liked it. no problems or complaints other than the quasi lack of power (all relative). at the time i got the b8s4 the 340hp v8 was a “beast” and really fun with quattro and the 6spd manual. it still was just as awesome the day i got rid of it as when i picked it up. it is important to note, i kept the car 100% stock and had no desire to modifiy/void warranty.
Hope that’s a typo!
He had a 4.2 V8 s4 before
I just raced a M5 on the freeway about an hour ago on my way home from work. We did 2 pulls, both times he got the jump and we were dead even. I started in 3rd gear at about~5000 and I raced him to about 6000rpm in 4th gear both times. I love those cars and stock they are very quick especially on the freeway. It was about 48 degrees which really helps my car.
Once BMW got past the E3x chassis I stopped liking them. The E60 M5 is still an interesting car but it is about the same maintainence as a C5 RS6 minus the turbos.
That probably helped him more. Heat soak is a bitch.
I doubt it helped him as much as me. The cold weather really makes a big noticeable difference on my car.
he’s a naturally aspirated v10 and has no intercooler or heat exchanger. The cold helps both cars but the heat would have hurt him more… So the cold is more of a beinefficientit to him as he’s at his best.
Also if you’re equal with him dont you feel like maybe bigserve was on to something with his one post before you guys blew up into a big battle? He said your car sounds like it would run 12.3 or so and you went off on him. Then you post stories about losing to or being equal with multiple 12.3 cars.
Ya that car runs a 12.3 quarter mile but really shines on the freeway where we raced. I know those cars are faster then a lot of comparative cars that run a 12.3. I can almost gaurantee the on a race like we had the M5 would beat an RS4 pretty easily. Also our beef started long before he posted the quarter mile prediction. That was just remark he threw out there in just 1 thread. Either way that is all in the past. Either way it’s a moot point cause my car has never ran a 1/4 mile so well see when it happens. Actually we probably won’t see, because when I put the effort into getting to the track, I’m probably going to run on race gas to get the best possible time. Some people may not agree, and I too would like to see what my car does on pump.
The rs4 would get crushed by the m5 or by your car. No question… Not even close.
Pump gas to me is far more interesting. There are two ways to look at the dragstrip
A) the dragstrip is a measuring stick whee you want to see how your car stacks up against other cars, in It’s ‘natural’ form I. E. The way you drive it on the street. All your seats are in… Using pump gas… Street tires on street wheels.
Or
B) the dragstrip is a contest against the clock or other cars that are there where you do everything to make the car as fast as possible. The way I see that is if you’re using race gas, go all the way and take your interior out, and take your street wheels off and put some skinnies up from and drag radials with wrinkle walls out back and see what you can do. Hell take it further do an engine swap while you’re at it like the b5 guys are now doing to go crazy fast with vrt setups. You’re not really measuring what ‘a b8 s4’ can do, since nobody drives a b8 s4 like that, but if all you’re there for is the time or to win a bracket, go all out. Of course this would be a poor choice of car for that pursuit… There are far more effective ways of driving an ugly, interiorless car fast.
If you’re really racing for the fun of it and to get the best time, do everything you can. However if you’re trying to get a comparative benchmark for your four door luxury sedan in its true form, leave the seats in, use pump gas and leave your real wheels on…because that’s how you drive it 99.999% of the time. You don’t come across that random m5 on the highway and ask him to follow you home so you can pull all your seats out and put ms109 in…you just race, as is, on pump.
Your right. Also I meant to say RS5 not RS4.