PES blown RS5...

A5/S5/RS5
#26

[QUOTE=marzz;9258401]the car is making almost +200hp at the wheels at the moment, we stop here for know.

the top cover is new, the paint job is not finished yet (little twist to match the theme)
Also, new custom made pulley is coming soon …
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For some reason I’m quite skeptical… I mean, PES has such a great track record with Audi V8s…? Different setup than the past 4.2s but I still don’t see it making +200 whp…

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/508661-the-RS5-from-OZ?p=9258401&viewfull=1#post9258401

#27

You should be skeptical.

  1. the car dyno’d like shit before. It was making stock power levels even though it had full catless exhaust with headers. Maybe something was wrong that got fixed when they tore it apart and installed a supercharger. I’m betting vacuum line.

  2. dynos mean SWEET FUCK ALL in the real world. Especially with PES. Anyone who sells you a kit based on a dyno number hasn’t a fucking clue what they’re doing. APR gives you quarter mile runs in all configurations to prove their dyno numbers. JHM? They won’t even show you a dyno because it just lends credibility to a bullshit mean nothing measurement that can be easily doctored. They show performance only.

  3. It’s P E fucking S. We can’t trust anything they say.

If the car goes and rattles off a 10.70 on 93 octane fuel I still won’t really care. It’s PES. I will be too busy watching the video to see if a rod flies through the side of the block or if the car dies.

p.s. this guy MARZZ promised all kinds of performance testing AGES AGO. He was promising to hit the strip when stock. Then when he got his $10,000 exhaust (you read that right), He was promising pbox data. Nothing was shared. Best case scenario is that they never bothered. More likely? They tested the car and realised the exhaust didn’t do fuck all, and they didn’t want to post the shitty numbers. He still hasn’t gone to the strip.

In fact, we have been waiting so long since he started promising performance data that Audi has redesigned the RS5 lol. APR even ordered one of the newly redesigned ones, it was built in Neckarsulm, and shipped from Germany to MFN Alabama…then they developed a tune, put it on the car, and took THAT CAR to the dragstrip. Yes that long!

PES? Still playing with dyno sheets.

#28

Amazing how much money this guy is willing to blow with a company that has a history of releasing shit products that are abandoned as soon as the “shortfalls” (aka massive failures) start to pile up. Then again, as you said, Saki, he spent $10,000 on an exhaust that he replaced within months.

Odd that it supposedly is making an additional 200hp yet he is still going to wait for a new, “custom” pulley. I’d be pretty fucking pumped if my RS5 picked up 200 whp. You know, I’d probably make some acceleration videos, go to the track, post some pbox data, etc. Instead, we have him posting pictures of the car on a dyno with that hideous manifold cover.

#29

This quote should be stickied to each board on AR.

#30

[quote=“Ynnekdude,post:28,topic:4650”]
???

#31

[quote=“sakimano,post:30,topic:4650”]

Actually, going back through that thread, I may have been wrong. I believe he chopped up the cat-back portion a couple times to pass some emissions noise requirements but the rest may still be in place. I could have sworn that he replaced the system with an OTS setup. May have been a different poster.

It’s a shame he spent all that money on the PES system. Even if it does perform flawlessly, he still gave money to that garbage company. I wonder what he will do when the APR RS5 system comes out and posts 10’s on pump.

#32

Has anyone even really seen many RS5 dynos, stock or modified? I haven’t seen many but they typically aren’t impressive. I also doubt the exhaust / intake mods really made much of a difference.

#33

His intake looks like two Folgers cans and some dryer exhaust tubing.

#34

I researched RS5 modifications before we took delivery of our RS5 and noticed those intakes quite some time ago. I’m not sure who makes them.

#35

that thread over there is pretty classic

Now there’s someone named McChip who is tuning it. I shit you not, that’s the shop’s name. German company.

A quick look at their webpage and you see what they’re all about…

http://i39.tinypic.com/t6qzrt.jpg

#36

McChip ;D

Stated otherwise, NO, this car will never see the strip.

#37

lol everyone suddenly gets reeeeaaaalllll busy when they get a supercharged 4.2

he wasn’t too busy to post this giant build thread replete with 800 photos of every mod on the car on 11 different Audi forums though :slight_smile:

#38

My interpretation is he will go… if he runs good(low 11’s high 10’s) he’ll post… if he runs bad, he will just tell everyone he didn’t go… lol

#39

that’s the thing, the PES guys tend not to be so sharp.

They often don’t know any better lol.

I once pressed the Tony guy at PES (the boss) for proof of performance on the RS4 supercharger kit (Eaton M90). He posted a video of a PES RS4 going 12.6 @ 110. He thought that was impressive enough. Kind of staggering really. Worse still? The minions who were drooling over a PES kit kept applauding that result . Made me not want to post on other forums. There are too many people and you can’t help them all.

Hopefuly they find this place.

#40

LOL! Saki that is funny… 12.6 @ 110 and he thought that was good… .15 faster than your stock NA time… wow just wow… Probably needed a driver mod but the 110 trap is weak sauce still…

IMO if the tune on the car is good, there is no reason the car shouldn’t run a decent time(assuming decent conditions)… No clue on how mcnuggets tunes though so it may not be so good…

#41

Funny, the driver did pretty well. Video below.

1.8 60’
DA was around 0 (it was freezing out, and he’s in the New Jersey area)
Decent shifting
Catless exhaust, LW seats, LW wheels, etc.

Problem is the Eaton M90 makes barely any more power than a stock RS4. maybe 30-40 hp. When you factor in shitty PES tuning, you lose lots of that advantage. Then you factor in ridiculously small cooling setup and you have a hair dryer blowing hot air into the motor.

I bet he would have run 12.6 @ 110 if he had taken the supercharger off and put the stock manifold and tune on and ran with the LW parts and the exhaust.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrzMB4N4PHs

oh yeah…it was only 0.10 better than my stock run. He ran 12.65 :slight_smile:

My DA +300 feet
His DA -912 feet!
http://www.dragtimes.com/da-density-altitude-calculator.php?temperature=42.8&rh=76&altset=30.04&elevation=178&track=32&month=3&day=10&year=2010&time=9:35 PM

http://www.kryptonik.org/rs4/pes/scmile/sctrack.jpg

#42

stock S5s are slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww though :slight_smile:

#43

that was an RS4 so not sure what you mean…

#44

Really?! that is really sad then! I thought we were talking about spinners m90 S5 when he ran 12.6

#45

Nope

Watch the video